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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-14 07:00 pm

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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-14 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never had the issue of fictional men ruining me for other men. Fiction and fantasy are just that. I can still be attracted to real men. Sure, I like elves a lot (and Ainur too). But that is fiction and it doesn't affect my real life attractions.

Though I will say that I kind of agree with you that while I liked some of the movie portrayals of elves acting wise, they didn't really capture it exactly. Though I felt like Galadriel and Arwen and Thranduil came closest.

I'm also with you on the body hair, though there are some men who don't have as much body hair, and some men even get it all removed. I can live with a certain amount, though. I just am not attracted to really hairy men.
Edited 2016-03-14 23:21 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
I will admit to not being a Tolkien geek (fell in love with the movies, read the books after, still prefer the movies), but I am curious as to your inclusion of Arwen, seeing as most book fans seem to find her movie character out-of-character, probably because book-version didn't really have a character and the movies gave her more to do. Or are you just saying that movie Arwen has the appropriate "feel" for being an elf?

I do love movie Galadriel and Thranduil, as they both have this sort of beautiful coldness, but there's a lot of power beneath that. I have to admit liking Galadriel best in the original LOTR, not so much in The Hobbit, but I do love that snarky assholish Tranduil.

Sorry, I got a little tl;dr. Just curious about Arwen!
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-15 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
I merely meant look-wise. She looks like an elf, or at least as close as a human can. Arwen is supposed to be particularly beautiful, and Liv Tyler is stunning.

Personality wise, yes, she was very different from the books. But then again, Arwen was mostly a non-entity in the books. I actually didn't mind the additional stuff in Fellowship, I just didn't like the added stuff in Two Towers or ROTK as much.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for the incredibly delayed reply, I log on a bit infrequently. Yes, agreed that Arwen was a non-entity, and since I'm not a book purist, I was fine with her taking on some of Glorfindel's duties in the film. :) I think that they did need to beef up her roles. I think there was some stuff of hers that I thought was extraneous - probably the scene where Aragorn goes over the cliff in TTT, and we have that weird imaginary scene between her and Aragorn. But in ROTK, I loved the scene where Elrond is cautioning her about her life with Aragorn - some of my friends thought it slowed up the action, but I thought it was just so beautifully done. It's one of the scenes with her that sticks most in my mind, where she's wearing black and wandering through the forests.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-16 12:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I did like that scene. I just didn't like that she stayed for her future son rather than for her love of Aragorn.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-14 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The body-hairlessness would be nice. No hairy legs, no hipster beards.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
OK, now I'm craving some elven hipster fanfic. Not a sentence I thought I'd ever type :-P

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
i was going to accuse you of being philstar but since they already commented i've got nothing

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like is beautiful elves existed, I could actually be content in a heterosexual relationship. Maybe because male elves are so beautifully feminine looking.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
'beautifully feminine looking'

Tolkien would have an aneurysm at this, haha.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-15 01:22 am (UTC)(link)
He really would. The great thing about the male elves for me is that they are beautiful and masculine at the same time. I never got feminine from the description of male elves. A lack of body hair and being attractive does not have to equal feminine. Male elves are great to me because I like the idea that men too can be beautiful.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on what you consider feminine and masculine, I guess, which are kind of loaded terms. My ideal "male" elf would be slender, not super broad shoulders, have more "delicate" features (more narrow chin and face, larger eyes), no facial hair... Not stereotypically macho masculine, and probably closer to stereotypically "beautiful" over "handsome" but I'm not talking about them having hips and boobs or something.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-03-15 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. I guess that makes sense. I guess for me feminine implies curves as apposed to masculine angles. I agree that elves aren't that muscular and are on the slim side. I don't know if I'd consider those things feminine, though.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
this is why i'm looking forward to vr sex becoming reality

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that the elves in the movies were nothing like real elves, and the actors were not even close. What bugged me in The Hobbit was how often I could see Lee Pace's five o'clock shadow. I mean, at least make the effort to fix that shit.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
I live in an Asian country and there's a lot less male body hair here (among straight guys) - less grown and also more waxing. Maybe you should move?

Cyclists also often wax everything, if you're looking for muscular, smooth-bodied men.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-15 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't care about Tolkien but there are definitely some guys in fictional works whose personalities have ruined me for irl guys