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(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 02:15 am (UTC)(link)Feminism 101- the belief that women should be treated as equal to men and the recognition that we live in a patriarchy, thus women are not equal in a lot of ways.
"Picking apart every last detail of a woman's anatomy in sneering detail" is actually the opposite of what feminism is, as one aspect is about the the fact that women are compartmentalised, by their looks. Studies have been conducted and shown that both women and men see women in regards to their different body parts, as opposed to a whole person. An aspect of feminism is for society to regard a woman as a whole person ie; not just 'boobs, butt, hair" etc. If a woman is, in fact "picking apart every last detail of a woman's anatomy in sneering detail" she is being very anti-feminist.
I would like to add that I have NEVER seen any woman declare herself 'feminist' and then start to belittle other women ie; "I'm feminist but I'm now going to bitch about that other woman's thighs". Can you see now how ridiculous your comment is?
As for the original OP, I recognise this is a grey area.
I'll only say this. Oftentimes, when a man is 'shirtless' he is more than just 'sexualised'. A muscular torso has more symbolic meaning, in society than simply 'phoar he's hot!'. It usually also denotes strength, masculinity. Also, keep in mind that the majority of the time, the men are the main characters and not thrown in just to supply sex appeal. Therefore, they have agency of their own. Personally, I just don't see the "sexualisation of men" and the "sexualisation of women" as being the same thing, because of the two different ways that women and men are treated in society.
Then again, I do know other feminists who utterly disagree with me. Like I wrote, I think it is a grey area.
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(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 02:33 am (UTC)(link)Also there's the whole second wave....
Feminism in ideaology shouldn't bodyshame women. In practice, like many religions, people don't follow those tenants at all and shame and attack women. I've seen feminism devolve into cyber bullying so many times that I'm exhausted with 99% of shrieking keyboard warriors who can't come up for anything matters, just shaming fictional characters and attacking real women.
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(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 02:54 am (UTC)(link)No, that's Radical Feminism 101. Feminism 101 is the belief that men and women should have equal rights and opportunities under the law.
If a woman is, in fact "picking apart every last detail of a woman's anatomy in sneering detail" she is being very anti-feminist.
I agree. What I can't understand is your adamant refusal to acknowledge that women who identify as feminists engage in this kind of behavior, on this very community. Of course they don't say "I'm feminist but I'm now going to bitch about that other woman's thighs". That would be absurd. I think most are unaware of the tone of misogyny in the language they use regarding the female body in its many representations.