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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-16 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #3360 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3360 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Niche]


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03.
[Rush Hour 1, 2, 3]


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04.
["The Bride Was A Boy" manga]


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05.
[J.K. Rowling]


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06.
[Pretty Little Liars]


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07.
[Twin Peaks]


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08.
[The Walking Dead/The Flash]


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09.
(GIRLS)


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10.
[The Grinder]


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11.
[Pokemon]


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12.
[Lord of the Rings]


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13.
[Babylon 5, Tolkien, Star Wars, Harry Potter]


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14.
[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]


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15.
[Pete Seeger]









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(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
psssssst star wars isn't really scifi, it's fantasy

not just the force, 99% of the tech is functionally magic, that's how it operates in the narrative, and that's why it doesn't progress like regular tech

seriously if you want meaningful cultural development in your popcorn space opera you're in the wrong Star Thing franchise

(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
^basically the comment I was scrolling down to write

(Anonymous) 2016-03-16 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
How is the tech magic? *Curious*

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
just in the sense that the story isn't remotely concerned with it, it's set dressing to what was a fantasy story all along.

not that I'm expecting an engineering treatise but like, you could plop star wars down in a High Fantasy setting with *zero* friction. laser swords become swords, space ships become ship-ships, X-wings become cavalry, droids become golems, holograms become magic mirrors, death stars become Evil Volcano Death Rituals, data drives become secret runes, wizards knights stay wizard knights. it's not about ~the future~ or science in any way, it's about magical adventures.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-03-17 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
Does a story have to be focused on tech to be sci fi? I thought the only essential difference between sci-fi and traditional fantasy was the setting

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
If the only difference between sci-fi and fantasy were set dressing, then hardcore SF fans wouldn't ghettoize fantasy as feminine drivel.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-03-17 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much. Then there's the "hard science fiction" fetishists who reduce the "fiction" part to "pot-fueled speculation about what's in Popular Mechanics last month."
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-03-18 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It's hard for me to take that viewpoint seriously, though...

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Arthur C. Clarke's Third Law: Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-03-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
It's both, actually. Tired wank is tired.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-17 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
is this wanky to some people? weird

I mean, nerds will fight about anything, of course it is, but I like both fantasy and scifi, so this isn't an insult from me, I'm just pointing out that SW is very much deliberately *not trying* to be the thing OP is expecting of it, rather than failing out of incompetence or neglect

as for it being 'both', sure, yeah, I guess you can say the planets-and-lasers set dressing is enough to qualify, but I think using the words that way tells you less about about the story being told, rather than more, so.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2016-03-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Key themes of the series include problems of galactic government, transhumanism, and weapons of mass destruction, which are will within the the speculative domain of sci fi.