[ SECRET POST #3360 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3360 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Niche]


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03.
[Rush Hour 1, 2, 3]


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04.
["The Bride Was A Boy" manga]


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05.
[J.K. Rowling]


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06.
[Pretty Little Liars]


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07.
[Twin Peaks]


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08.
[The Walking Dead/The Flash]


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09.
(GIRLS)


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10.
[The Grinder]


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11.
[Pokemon]


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12.
[Lord of the Rings]


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13.
[Babylon 5, Tolkien, Star Wars, Harry Potter]


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14.
[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]


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15.
[Pete Seeger]









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 032 secrets from Secret Submission Post #480.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

14. http://i.imgur.com/b0QuVAp.png
[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]

[(Anonymous)]

The progress of technology isn't a constant across the ages.

[diet_poison]

This. Why in particular should they be leaping forward in technology the way we are now? We were stagnant too for ages.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. And it falls back at times, as well, particularly when empires are in decline (see: Rome and its colonies). In Star Wars, I think part of the problem is that it's a very far-flung empire. And seeing as we're spending most of our time on the outskirts - I don't think Jakku is a galactic hub, and Tatooine was always supposed to be way out there - it's not surprising that tech is not equally distributed, or that it might take a long time for a new development to actually make its way through many different planetary systems.

[kaijinscendre]

Huh. That is a bit of a disappointment now that I think about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Considering that it felt we went BACKWARDS in the OT compared to the prequels, due to wartime constraints and the fact that that was basically all the rebel forces could throw together and fight with, does it honestly, truly surprise you that a rebel group or poor people would have advanced only so little in a similar amount of time?

I mean, they have holograms you can converse with and tons of AI. We've basically just started scratching at the surface of what technology can do. Maybe the galaxy far, far away is plateau-ing. It happens.

[(Anonymous)]

The world is not just composed of poor people and rebels. I expect only a small percentage of the population was involved in the war, while many places were business as usual (just like in most wars).

[dethtoll]

Technology doesn't progress uniformly across history (if anything, we've experienced more technological progression in the last 100 years than we have in the past 1000) and science fiction/fantasy are notoriously prone to technological and even cultural stasis.

[fishnchips]

Floating and elaborate self defense mechanisms are not the primary functions droids like that have.

Rey built that thing herself out of spare parts and trash, basically.

If X-Wings work, why change them? The resistance is also not a hugely funded thing in VII. (It's also an iconic look.)

The broken-ass lightsaber looks like that on purpose. That it's broken is the fucking point.

[(Anonymous)]

I always think of this great theory I read (I don't remember where unfortunately /o\) that said the Star Wars universe is largely illiterate. From what we see in the movies, all information is presented visually or orally but not in the written word. The off-shoot of that theory was that there wasn't a whole lot of technological innovation because there wasn't a way to write down tech diagrams or new information. They could pretty much only copy what came before.

[(Anonymous)]

Considering we're dangling our toes over the Singularity right now, this complaint is gibberish.

Seriously, Star Wars is NOT ON THE SAME TECHNOLOGICAL TRACK AS US. They have blasters and fuckin' stardrives and lightsabers, none of which we have. And like ALL science fiction prior to about the 90s, they aren't as focused on information technology as we are. Indeed, no society, real or imagined, in all of human history has been as focused on information technology as we are.

Let's step outside of infotech for one second and see how your analogy holds up. In 1977 we had automatic dishwashers. In 2016 we have automatic dishwashers that are more energy-efficient. In 1977 we had supersonic passenger aircraft. In 2016 we... okay, we don't have those any more. In fact, we're largely using close variants on the same airplane designs we had in '77. In 1977 we had bulletproof vests. In 2016 we have slightly slimmer and more efficient bulletproof vests.

By your logic, the fact that computers are a thousand times more powerful than they were a generation ago means that cars should logically also be a thousand times more powerful. They are not. By your logic, the fact that telephones are infinitely more versatile than they were a generation ago means that microwave ovens should also be infinitely more versatile. They are not.

JESUS you think about technology in a facile way. If you were any dumber you'd qualify to give a TED talk.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, if they'd changed too much the new series would've been less visually recognizable.

Besides, a lot of things have changed only so much in that tme. For instance, I don't think planes look all that much different?

[(Anonymous)]

psssssst star wars isn't really scifi, it's fantasy

not just the force, 99% of the tech is functionally magic, that's how it operates in the narrative, and that's why it doesn't progress like regular tech

seriously if you want meaningful cultural development in your popcorn space opera you're in the wrong Star Thing franchise

[loracarol]

I kind of assumed that the situation after the Emperor was killed may have temporarily caused technology to stall, given that people would be reacting to the vacuum of power, splinter groups (of which the First Order grew to be the strongest), stuff like that.

It wasn't that technology didn't progress, just that people had other things to focus on after the emperor died.

Granted, the universe is vast, so I'm not expecting bad shit all across the board? But people were focused on some other things then technology.

[(Anonymous)]

watching as an audience i understand wanting to see cool new stuff

but as far as in world, it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of worlds under a fascist government struggled to make any progress

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. In the space of less than four decades, the galaxy has dealt with a massive war, the collapse of the Republic and all of its infrastructure, another massive war, and the collapse of the Empire and all of its infrastructure. Now, at the very least, they're living in a politically tense environment. I can see why people are mostly just trying to keep their heads above water instead of concentrating on inventing fancier droids.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Techno-utopians tend to ignore the fact that technology adoption is fundamentally driven by labor and economics. Large chunks of the world have wireless internet but minimal electricity and water, (much less fiber-optic broadband) because economics favors cellular over centralized infrastructure ala Bell, Westinghouse, and Edison.

One key plot conflict of the setting is that Galactic Empires/Republics are too big to support much in the way of innovation. Which is also a feature of a fair number of Galactic Government fiction from Foundation to Dune.

Never read Tolkien, OP

[(Anonymous)]

Thousands of years of total lack of development. (Except for that weird Shire bubble, but don't look at that too hard.)

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree. Star Wars isn't about a society during a technological explosion. It's about an interconnected galaxy of communities in which some have quite possibly hit a tech plateau, and others have been hit by war. They were using "old" tech in the original trilogy. They may still be, for economic reasons.

You're trying to generalise from your generation in the First World, but your generation is not typical, and even today, some places haven't kept up in any case. Look at the cars they drive in Cuba.

[(Anonymous)]

In-universe though, Rey built that speeder herself out of parts she salvaged, so it's not meant to be representative of what speeders currently look like.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes and no. I don't think it should have strayed too far from Star Wars, to the point where it would have been unrecognizable. You could probably get away with more in the Star Trek universe than in Star Wars, primarily because technology and progress is so much more of a focal point for that show.

[(Anonymous)]

I think when you've managed to develop a droid that can walk on two legs and correct its balance without constantly falling over (never mind the AI), you deserve to rest on your laurels for a few decades. In the Real World, that's only just now a thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY

[kamino_neko]

Ignoring the fact that it wouldn't have added anything to him aesthetically or functionally, why would BB-8 hover, but it's perfectly fine for R2, who doesn't come from pre-hover-technology times, not to?

[(Anonymous)]

Don't bother OP, this site is too obsessed with this copycating mediocrity to bother listening to any opinion other than OMFTHEFORCEAWAKENSISPERFETOMGOMGOMG!!!!!!!!!

[4thofeleven]

I was a little disappointed the Resistance didn't seem to have any A-Wings or B-Wings, and the Empire was only using the baseline TIE... spaceship variety seemed down compared to Return of the Jedi.