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⌈ Secret Post #3360 ⌋

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[Niche]

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[Rush Hour 1, 2, 3]

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["The Bride Was A Boy" manga]

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[J.K. Rowling]

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[Pretty Little Liars]

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[Twin Peaks]

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[The Walking Dead/The Flash]

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(GIRLS)

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[The Grinder]

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[Pokemon]

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[Lord of the Rings]

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[Babylon 5, Tolkien, Star Wars, Harry Potter]

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[Star Wars: The Force Awakens]

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[Pete Seeger]

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Thousands of years of total lack of development. (Except for that weird Shire bubble, but don't look at that too hard.)

Never look at Tolkein too hard. Where does their tea come from? Or sugar? He wanted an idyllic pre-industrial world but with post-industrial comforts!

I think the orcs must have been toiling in the underground sugar caves... no wonder they had to rebel.

Well, Pratchett had treacle-mines. Why not?

Presumably there were trade lines through Harad, or by sea. Middle-Earth was a big continent, and there were both Elves and Edain sailing the seas around it. Tea and sugar could be had from places where they grew. What the hobbits traded for them I don't know. But they were pretty technological! Maybe clockwork or something.

Now, historians have noted the curious fact that in some of Tolkien's translations the Hobbits had 'tomatoes' and what appears to be a close cousin of tobacco.

But even if Middle-Earth is really an earlier arrangement of Eurasia as assumed, it's possible that these went extinct in the northwest of Middle-Earth long before the geography changed to what we now call Europe. Or perhaps it's a translation error; Tolkien would hardly be the first translator to translate something imperfectly.

It's interesting that some of the rejected storylines had steam-punk kind of stuff. The Numenoreans built airships. Gondolin was attacked by mechanical monsters. I've also read some interesting meta concerning why Middle-earth doesn't advance more.

But, yeah, Tolkien was anti-industrialization and his theme was "looking back to the good old days" so there's not a lot of technological advancement.

I... would've been way more into Tolkien if they had airships.

Never read fucking history

A thousand years from the founding of Rome to its fall, and they never even developed gunpowder!

But concrete!

It is the loss of roadbuilding skills post Rome until the 18thC that always got me. Rome, which relied more on foot traffic than anything wheeled, built the most marvelous roads. Various European monarchies which depended on horse and cart/carriage and nothing for centuries.

Well, I suspect it's in large part a reflection of things like existence of a strong state apparatus to provide security and capital to invest in road-building, reliable expectations on return of investment, circulation of knowledge and expertise, all that kind of thing. But yeah it's super fascinating.

OP

Are you honestly comparing the timeline of the pre-industrial age, pre-any real understanding of science and physics, to Star Wars or the modern age?

Go right ahead.

I was replying to a post talking about Lord of the Rings, not to you.

I mean, I also don't think your point makes sense in the context of Star Wars, but the reason I was talking about the pre-industrial age is because I was talking about Lord of the Rings

come the fuck on

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Tea and sugar aren't that strange.

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