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[ SECRET POST #3364 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3364 ⌋

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[The Glass Scientists]

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[Ghostbusters remake]

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[All for One Webseries]

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[Castle]

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[DC Comics]

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[Reign of Fire]

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[Steven Universe]

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[K. Tempest Bradford]

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[Against the Wall]

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[Queer Literature, "In the Company of Shadows"]

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(Star Wars Rebels)

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[Jeeves and Wooster, P.G. Wodehouse]

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[Giles Coren]

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[James Marsters/Rick Grimes of The Walking Dead]

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09. http://i.imgur.com/gxs02sj.jpg
[K. Tempest Bradford]

Who is she exactly and what has she said/done to stir things up?

+1

(and +1 for anon below who recommended n.k. jemisin)

She's a writer/activist blogger, you might've heard of her blog, Angry Black Woman:

http://theangryblackwoman.com/

More recently, this was her brainchild:

http://www.xojane.com/entertainment/reading-challenge-stop-reading-white-straight-cis-male-authors-for-one-year

which... isn't a bad idea, tbh? especially in genre fiction. a friend of mine did a look through his read books list from last year and it was all male. all of it. just through reading fantasy and sci-fi 'essentials'.

(DA) yeah i like this idea to be honest. i think a lot of times it's easy to get sucked into reading what you see the most of, without realizing it, it just seems more "legitimate" to read these certain authors. and without really thinking about it, you'll end up reading all straight cis white dudes. WOOPS.

people go "well what's WRONG with reading straight cis white dudes?" nothing really, but i don't want to miss out on a world of books because i keep only giving people exactly like that a chance. one year out of your life to expand your horizons and check out some lesser known authors? sounds good to me! who knows you might find some new faves. and the old stand bys will be there after the year.

DA
The problem I have with this: Minority status of any kind does not a better writer make by proxy. Especially when a lot of minority writers are either self publishing or with such small publishers that there is little to no proper editing involved and really, I can't be bothered to dig through piles of badly edited crap just because of diversity.
And to be quite honest, I don't think "no cis authors" is a bit of gamble considering that a lot of people currently claim all kinds of different flavours of ~non-cis~ just to be different.

(Also... who actually chooses their authors based on sex and race anyway? Personally, I barely register the names of authors when I read a book, and I definitely can't be bothered to do any extensive background search about their race and sexuality first.)

yeah i get that. its just that i don't think we live in a meritocracy where the best writers just HAPPEN to be white men (magically, on accident). I think historically in the west those were the ones that were supported and nurtured and had mentors and people taking risks on them. And it carries on to this day, in publishing people, even really nice people who don't try to have ANY bias, will have this unconscious slant towards a specific group that "feels" right.

it's sort of a cycle, we always say, well if they were good i'd already be reading them, i don't want to read a lot of boring garbage just for the sake of diversity (and i don't either) but I do think sometimes it's WORTH the concious effort of trying to see what else is there.

thats just my opinion though i wouldn't make anyone read anything they don't want.
I do know i did this for COMICS and found so many good comics i'm glad i did it.

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(Anonymous) - 2016-03-22 13:21 (UTC) - Expand

EVerybody who lost their shit over this and took huge personal offense...why couldn't they see this? It seems so rational to me. I didn't take the challenge but I also didn't want to scream to the bloody rafters about how "racist" it was and how it was hurting the poor male authors!

Except the problem is right there in the title: stop reading straight cis white men. It is literally a challenge to stop reading, not to read more poc authors or women authors or queer authors or anything like that. Hell, I could do this challenge and not read a single book. It makes it abundantly clear that the most important part is shitting on cishetwhite men instead of actually promoting anything in particular.

As a side note, I went through my reading list after this thing broke, and when I added up all the non white, non male, non straight authors they accounted for well over half and I give not one single shit about this sort of thing. How hard can it be?

Seriously? Are you being clueless on purpose or do you really need everything spelled out for you? Obviously it's implied that you're expected to read books that aren't by straight cis white men if you do the challenge, and not reading at all doesn't count. Fucking christ.

You're one of those people who thinks reverse racism actually exists, huh?

Of course, that means I can still read Larry Correia and (gag) Vox Day, because neither of them are white...

Larry Correia's Portuguese. VD's brother took a genetic test that indicated he had some (almost certainly miniscule) percentage of Native American heritage. Based on those facts and on other things Correia and VD have said, I'm comfortable asserting that they're self-identifying as POC solely to muddy the waters while they troll the Hugos for fun and profit.

N.K. Jemisin might be to your taste. She doesn't start shit, but she sure does finish it. (Honestly, I disagree with her a lot, but I respect how she doesn't back down when other writers talk shit about her.)

YES. Was she the one who recently did the critique of J.K. Rowling's portrayal of American witches/wizards and magic culture?

One of many, but: http://nkjemisin.com/2016/03/it-couldve-been-great/

*pops popcorn* What's she done to stir shit

Existing, probably.

She's a supporter of Winterfox, including after the Requires Hate/Benjanun connection came out. She once called a funeral home to check out if someone who claimed they'd lost a baby really had. She also supported Kynn (a rapist) then pretended she never did that. Also Muslims are cool because they never had an empire.

>Also Muslims are cool because they never had an empire.

So she's stupid. Is she missing the part where not only they had, but still have?

It's okay to disagree with someone and their tactics, even if they are supposed to be on your "side".Too long has tumblresque activism been preaching the whole "don't tone police" mantra - but fact is, most human beings do care about HOW you bring up issues.

Edited 2016-03-20 21:48 (UTC)

Yeah this. I hate when "tone policing!!!!!" is brought up as a response to valid criticisms about peoples' approaches to things (and the simple statement that you just don't want to talk to them anymore if they're going to be hostile).

Your attitude matters, and you can harm rather than help the side you claim to support with a bad one.

She really is incredibly unpleasant.

Can't you just set your phasers to Ignore when it comes to shit like this? So much drama!

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