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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-20 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #3364 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3364 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Glass Scientists]


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[Ghostbusters remake]


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[All for One Webseries]


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[Castle]


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[DC Comics]


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07.
[Reign of Fire]


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08.
[Steven Universe]


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[K. Tempest Bradford]


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[Against the Wall]


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11.
[Queer Literature, "In the Company of Shadows"]


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12.
(Star Wars Rebels)


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[Jeeves and Wooster, P.G. Wodehouse]


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14.
[Giles Coren]


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15.
[James Marsters/Rick Grimes of The Walking Dead]









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(Anonymous) 2016-03-20 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the original was also a racial stereotype, at least by modern standards -- the only non-scientist, just in it for a job, etc. They seem to be making an extremely faithful, just gender-swapped, remake. I think it would probably be improved if they'd done something here to remove Unfortunate Implications, but the problem is something transferred from the original rather than introduced.

...For whatever that's worth.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-20 08:55 pm (UTC)(link)
What unfortunate implication is that? That ma man of modest means and education, whatever his race, might be glad of a less than mundane albeit, still blue collar job?

Should black or other ethnic characters only play highly educated and affluent characters now? Even if this doesn't mirror reality? Only a few percent of people of any color including white are particularly rich or highly educated. Should the majority be erased from film in the name of preventing some perceived offense?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-20 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
But the thing is that they don't GET to play highly educated people ever.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-20 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Not true. I don't watch a lot of tv, but of the shows I am watching minority characters are well represented playing business people, high ranking government officials, and other people of influence. Unless your tv is set to 1950, your very wrong in your statement.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 07:18 am (UTC)(link)
You are living some kind of parallel universe if you think that representation for racial and ethnic minorities is in any way shape or form fair. Just because it's not the 1950s any more doesn't make the representation in film or tv (which is doing better than film) good or even adequate.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-03-20 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
So is this the movie to take that particular stand in?* Or will it help to fix that problem by never casting minority actors in blue-collar-esque roles? Because I guarantee that would cause a whole 'nother kind of outrage (and one I'd actually agree with).

*asking honestly because I'm not terribly familiar with Ghostbusters and I don't know if there are any highly-educated/rich characters of any import in that movie, though I definitely get the sense that making one of the characters pictured here rich or highly educated would be out of character
Edited 2016-03-20 22:19 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-20 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
All three of the other people are highly educated (that is the point). They could have EASILY made one of the white women the "uneducated, everyman.
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[personal profile] luxshine 2016-03-21 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I remember reading that Patty (the everywoman character) was originally written for Melissa McCarthy (making the character white in the scriptwriters mind) before they decided to switch them due to Patty being like "Every other Melissa McCArthy's role".

Also, that Patty IS highly educated, just with a shitty job. (She has a doctorate or masters in History, IIRC)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's been any confirmation that Patty has a doctorate in history. If anything, I think the poster(?) that refers to her as a New York "historian" is making a joke about her street smarts.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-03-21 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
ah, ok. thanks for the clarification, anon :)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Or if they do, their background has to be one of hardships, maybe with an added "escaped-from-*insert cliché* unlike the rest of their family".