[ SECRET POST #3365 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3365 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 070 secrets from Secret Submission Post #481.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - posted twice ].
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Comments

Re: Inspired by #15

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with the anons a bit above in not wanting to see villains redeemed. Temporary antagonists/anti-heroes who already have a shred of likability about them, sure, but not the honest-to-god villains. let them villain!

I mean, I could go around and around about Spike in Buffy...I never did watch his season on Angel, I already hated that show, but there's something interesting about there-but-for-this-chip-in-my-head Spike that later, "redeemed" Spike totally lacked. Too often, when an author/show-runner tries to redeem a villain based solely on the fact that the fanbase likes them and wants them around but the only way they can stay around is to no longer antagonize the main character/main cast, it just falls flat. Neuter the villain but give them nothing in place of their villainy and it doesn't work. See: the entirety of OUAT.

By contrast, I enjoy the villains in One Piece because some of them are wholly, utterly irredeemable and even those who no longer antagonize the main cast aren't really "redeemed" so much as given a different focus. Doflamingo is the worst piece of shit ever but goddamn if he wasn't intriguing. Crocodile is still a piece of shit even if he briefly helped Luffy - he's not a changed man, he's not redeemed, he's still an asshole who's probably wreaking havoc in the New World off screen. And Caesar, goddammit, that awful awful Caesar, saved lives but he's still a genocidal megalomaniac who won't change his song even under threat of death. The only "villain" who's gotten a redemption arc has been Bellamy, and it turned out amazing, mostly because he was never a Major Boss Villain, just a small-time antagonist of about five chapters during an arc in which Enel was the real villain.

whoops that got away from me. Rambling about One Piece usually does.