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⌈ Secret Post #431 ⌋

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He's supposed to be a geneticis, right? So why is it that when ever he opens his mouth and tries to talk about evolution, biology, and you know basic facts of science he get it wrong. Some of the things he says are about equivalent to Nathan declaring he wants to be the Queen of the United States.

I know it's a problem with the writers not having taken grade school biology or even having a cursory look through wikipedia, but it still stands that that is all that is given to us by the show. If I was really invested in ignoring that and pretending that my personal version of Mohinder was knowledgeable in the area of biology, I probably could like that version of the character. Unfortunately, I'd still be forced to throw popcorn, and other various food stuffs, whenever he opened his mouth on the show.

(Did you write that first paragraph just to work yourself into a rage? You answer your question yourself with the following sentence, so... uh?)

I know it's a problem with the writers not having taken grade school biology or even having a cursory look through wikipedia

... but you still decide to blame it all on this character. I just find that immature and irrational, but it's of course your right to be immature and irrational. Just don't expect people to agree.

but it still stands that that is all that is given to us by the show.

On geneticism and the pseudo-scientific background of the abilities? Yeah. And it would be the same even if there were more geneticists to talk about these things. If you can't suspend your disbelief in this area, I am surprised you can still watch Heroes at all, because no matter what ralistically incorrect things Mohinder says and does - in that fictional world, they are right.

But anyway, it isn't all that is given about Mohinder on the show. The original secret, and specifically Medoroa's reply, did not really refer to Mohinder-as-ascientist, but to Mohinder-as-aperson, his psyche, his personal life, etc.
You seem to only consider him a mouthpiece to convey genetical background info, hence why you can hate the character because the writers get details about his profession wrong. What the hell.

It might be irrational, but my like or dislike of a character is generally an irrational emotional reaction. What's more he is the single character that represents what I dislike most about the show. I don't care where you agree or not, my original reply was there to show that there is more than one reason to dislike the character.

I can disregard the big discrepancies from reality in the show because it's fiction. However, one thing that bothers me greatly is when writers try to give it real world legitimacy and fail to actually do even the most basic research. Curare paralyzing you brain is neither factually correct nor believable. Neither is the whole bit with Claire's blood strengthening Mohinder's antibodies.

To me, the most interesting part of Mohinder is that he IS a scientist. He's dedicated to figuring out the truth and getting it right even if everyone else thinks he's a nut. I want to enjoy that because, as somebody interested in science, this is a character that I should like. However, the writers inability to write him in a sensible manner ruins it for me. I wish I could get over it and just enjoy the character, but what I enjoy about him is repeatedly fucked up.

It might be irrational, but my like or dislike of a character is generally an irrational emotional reaction. What's more he is the single character that represents what I dislike most about the show. I don't care where you agree or not, my original reply was there to show that there is more than one reason to dislike the character.

Sorry, I wanted to understand your reasons, hence why I asked for clarification. Your original comment made very little sense, because it spoke of disliking Mohinder "for being the most incompetent scientist on the planet". You could have meant many different things with that.

Your reasons are interesting. You study genetics and wanted Mohinder to be a certain way, but he turned out differently and you cannot forgive him, you also don't have any interest in the character the way he is because yu can't get over the way he isn'.

I wonder how man nurses hate Peter for quitting his job and no longer being an identification figure, how many secret agents hate James Bond for being unrealistic, how many doctors hate the Emergency Room for being rap doctors, how many archologists are in a frothing rage about Indiana Jones' factual errors and misrepresentation of archeologists...

I can disregard the big discrepancies from reality in the show because it's fiction.

Well, obviously not.

Eh, sorry for the missing letters, my keyboard is evidently a real piece of crap. =_=

I'm sure plenty of people dislike those characters and I understand their reason for doing so. As I hope you can see from my reply, it's difficult to continue liking a character when the writers seem intent on making him ridiculous in term of his profession or other characteristics you identify with.

I really hope you don't see me as frothing with rage, because for the most part I just crack jokes about how bad the science. I only get really angry at the show when the Mohilogues of the first season misrepresent evolution and that has more to do with the fact the media and public in Canada and the US seem to be so undereducated about the subject and propegation of this kind of misinformation is annoying.

Well, obviously not.

Did you actually bother to read what I wrote? I don't mid the fact that the superpowers are scientifically questionable or that none of the related things make sense. What bothers me is when the writers take real things, such as antibodies or natural selection and use them without regard for what they are simply to lend scientific legitimacy to the plot. If they want to use antibodies to explain something they might want to understand what they are first. If they want to use natural selection in the opening monologues they may want to understand what the process actually entails. These are simple things that good writers do.

Hm, no, you came across as "frothing with rage" rather than someone who merely likes to joke about bad science on a television show.
Why else would you attack a single character, talk about wanting to throw things and wanting to stuff socks into his mouth?

So you have issues with the science on Heroes in general. So... what does that have to do with Mohinder? I honestly don't follow here. Why would you single him out and say you dislike the character?

Oh, actually...
I have friends who have issues with how Japanese culture and history is shown on Heroes, since they happen to know that it's not how things are in real life at all, and sometimes they roll their eyes at it. But they still don't rant against Hiro and Ando and talk about the evil things they want to do to them. Threy actually like them, and I think this is because they don't primarly see them as representant of Japan, but as characters with personal issues, emotions, goals and all that.

You seem to see Mohinder as a representant of genetics and science and nothing else. And this sort of leads us back to "people too stupid to appreciate Mohinder, their loss".

Fuck, how am I going to survive without your approval, o nameless one?

Nathan declaring he wants to be the Queen of the United States.

Well, that would be silly. Nathan wants to be the Queen of England. That way he can jump into my icon and have Peter on top for once.

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