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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-03-26 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #3370 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3370 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-03-26 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Writing fic and shipping is not the only way of being a fan of a character or being affected by that character. Arguably it's not even the most significant way of doing it. The lack of fic is not evidence that no one cares about her. It's evidence that they don't care about her in the same way that they care about characters they ship.

Which, yeah, people who say they slash because they're "aren't enough good women characters" are full of shit, but they always are and it's not particularly news to point that out. Nor is it even that significant a point, unless you have some problem with shipping as a thing that revolves around people you want to smooch or at least want to see smooch, which is largely is.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-26 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Can someone translate that second paragraph for me?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-26 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I was trying to respond to a post in a different subthread, and also I wrote it shitty because I'm hungry.

What I'm saying is:

1) yes, the fact that no one is writing shippy fic for this character is probably evidence that the people who say "I only ship slash because there are no good female characters" are full of shit.

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2) Those people are obviously talking nonsense, and have been forever, and we should probably mostly just move on from the whole idea. It's not really worth disproving.

Especially because

3) There's not actually anything wrong with shipping people primarily because you want to see them smooch. It's fine. Debunking the argument isn't worth the effort because who cares that shipping often centers around attraction. Especially since (fitting in with the first paragraph) shipping is only one specific thing within fandom.

Does that make more sense or am I still talking nonsense?

(Anonymous) 2016-03-26 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt, but it makes sense to me.

Also, it's not as though shipfic is the only POSSIBLE kind of fic that can EVER be written in fandom. (Not that you're saying that - but sometimes it gets implied in these sorts of discussions.)

(Anonymous) 2016-03-26 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Not gonna lie, I would LOVE to see some Eileen-centric case fics.

(Anonymous) 2016-03-26 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

I think people care because it comes off as smug and disingenuous, as well as dismissive of those who do love and identify with female characters. Which I'm guessing is why OP feels smug in return.