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⌈ Secret Post #3370 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Things I want to see in shows = diversity that reflects our real life society and characters having agency

Things I want to read about = hot guys (whatever skin color) who have complex relationships boning


These are two separate things for me and probably lots of other people too.

[(Anonymous)]

You don't think there's a little bit of a double standard there? Shows and fic both exist to entertain. I don't necessarily look for reality in either.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Well no, not really. Fic has, for me, always been a romantic/sexual thing. For whatever reason, I only dig romance when it's about two guys. The pairings I go for tend to be guys in media who have complex relationships. Ergo, the fic I read tends to be about guys with complex relationships.

Media in general, I like a variety of characters and have no preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - Preferences are not double standards. I hate romance in film format. HATE. I do not want to watch it in any way. I do not see any 'chemistry' and the moment it turns romantic I tend to lose interest in the entire show. Bleh.

I love romantic plotlines in writing, especially fanfic. I'm sure others are the same way. The stuff you like to read about in fanfic is sometimes the stuff you don't want in canon, and vice versa (which is one reason it seems like grimdark media seems to generate a significant amount of fluff, and fluff media generates grimdark fandom)

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, people have preferences. It becomes a double standard when they imply mainstream media has a moral or social responsibility to do what they won't do as writers.

And romance sucks equally in mainstream media and fic. It's almost always contrived and sickeningly melodramatic.

[(Anonymous)]

It becomes a double standard when they imply mainstream media has a moral or social responsibility to do what they won't do as writers.

But the original post you replied to was about what someone enjoys in media, not some moral and social responsibility they think media should uphold.

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<I> It becomes a double standard when they imply mainstream media has a moral or social responsibility to do what they won't do as writers.</I>

But the original post you replied to was about what someone enjoys in media, not some moral and social responsibility they think media should uphold.

<I.And romance sucks equally in mainstream media and fic. It's almost always contrived and sickeningly melodramatic.</I>

You missed an <I>in your opinion</I> there.

[tabaqui]

*raises hand*

For me, too. I don't want *every* show or movie i watch to be a m/m sausage fest, but i predominantly read m/m fic.

What i *want* in my tv/movies is more representation where the gay/trans/disabled/mentally ill person is just *a character*, and not a Very Special Episode. And it would be nice if bisexual people could actually exist in the world of Hollywood. Or even the word.

[(Anonymous)]

I think Randy on Trailer Park Boys is my favorite bi character.

[tabaqui]

I've never seen that. Or, um. Heard of it. Heh. We don't have cable anymore.

[(Anonymous)]

We don't either. It's either on Netflix or Hulu.

It's Canadian, though, so I guess it doesn't count as Hollywood per se.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much this.

Here are a few shows you might like.

[(Anonymous)]

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The Good Wife - Kalinda Sharma (S1-S6), the firm's investigator, is bisexual. Louis Canning (played by Michael J. Fox, who has Parkinson's) is a recurring character with tardive dyskinesia who tends to try to use it to his advantage to help him in court.

NCIS: New Orleans - Patton Plame (played by Daryl Mitchell, who is paralyzed from the waist down) is wheelchair bound.

Grey's Anatomy - Callie Torres is bisexual and is now seeing a new character, Penny. Arizona Robbins is gay, was married to Callie, and the character lost her leg in season 9.

Elementary - Sherlock's addiction seems to really be treated like a disease and he's now seeing someone, Fiona Helbron, who is autistic. Mrs. Hudson, an occasional recurring character, is being played by Candis Cayne.