[ SECRET POST #3373 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3373 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Cascada - Everytime We Touch]


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03.
[Rose Of Versailles]


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04.
[Andrew Lincoln (of The Walking Dead) and Spike (of Buffy the Vampire Slayer)]


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05.
[One Punch Man]


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06.
[Paul Daniels]


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07.
[The Crow: Stairway to Heaven]


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08.
(Mallrats)


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09.
[Genesis (Band)]


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10.
[The Hunger Games]










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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/MiTxj7K.png
[The Hunger Games]

[philstar22]

There are some things that are just not okay regardless. Killing children is one of them. So while she wasn't as bad as Snow she was pretty bad.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait... what fire.

I get to some extent idealism is not reality when it comes to rebuilding a stable government.

But there was zero reason why a Hunger Games 2.0 would've benefited anyone. I mean, Hunger Games 1.0 didn't even make sense.

[morieris]

It was just out of spite to be honest, but I'd be lying if I didn't say "You know what, go right ahead" at the end of reading the book.

[(Anonymous)]

but... what?

you do realize we're talking about kids, right?

[(Anonymous)]

...really though? you think the children should have been held accountable for the actions of their parents? why not just make the adults who actually did shit be in the hunger games? I'd rather watch president snow scramble around an arena, dodging tracker jackers and freaky-ass wild dogs than his naive granddaughter

[(Anonymous)]

I think the OP meant how she had the people outside of Snow's palace bombed and made everyone think it was him.

[philstar22]

Well, okay, but that was still children.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, so the plot of Watchmen.

[(Anonymous)]

They had already won when she did it.

[(Anonymous)]

Coin's storyline had a number of explicit points to make about how replicating the vengeance and cruelty Snow built would ultimately lead to nothing changing, requiring a much more drastic shift in leadership. She was up for killing more children because of the sins of their parents.

So... she can go right to hell.

[sadiesockmonkey]

+1000

[(Anonymous)]

She wanted to be Snow 2.0 and that's... not exactly a good thing.

[(Anonymous)]

i don't think she was originally a bad person.
but she became one. killing kids as a means to an end is pretty evil. she also really seemed to relish power in a frightening way.
Maybe when her family died her heart did too and she just gave up on trying for anything but power and revenge, the only things that felt good anymore.

[kallanda_lee]

Which is why she was useful as a rebel combatant. But she'd have been a terrible president. Too vengeful, too power-hungry.

This is true in real life, too. The people who overthrow regimes, are not necessarily the ones who should rule after, but often it just turns out that way.

[philstar22]

This is very true. In general wartime leaders to not always make the best peacetime leaders. Churchill, for example, was out of office as soon as the war was over. He was what Britain needed through the war, but once there was peace he was not.

[diet_poison]

This exactly.

[cakemage]

I think that, as her name implies, she was simply the other side of the coin from Snow. She may have once had good intentions, but I think she lost that claim even before she bombed those children. And then she followed that up trying to start up the Hunger Games again, "just once more." Yeah, she deserved that arrow every bit as much as Snow. The rebellion was justified, her actions were not.

[diet_poison]

Nope.

Everyone else already explained why. Just nope. Also if you think her version of the Hunger Games was justified in any way, I judge you, and that's even before the fact that it didn't contribute to the actual rebellion in ANY way.

As an aside, I also pretty much gave up on Katniss when she chose to support the last Game. What a horrible letdown. :(

I can't emphasize enough how horrible I find the concept of making people pay for their ancestors' wrongdoings. x100 for the fact that they're still CHILDREN.

[(Anonymous)]

ooh in the movie i thought it was a fake out!
because Boggs said that Coin would never trust or allow anyone to live who wasn't 100% on Coin's side. SO
I thought that the moment of aggreeing to the hunger games was to fake out Coin to be like "oh yes, i am 100% on your side, let me get near you with my deadly weapon. no fear"
Like at that moment Katniss KNEW she couldn't let Coin go, BECAUSE Coin wanted to continue the games.

[(Anonymous)]

I (and many others) always assumed that Katniss said yes for strategic reasons (I think the movie made this a little more blatant). At that point, she blamed Coin for Prim's death and probably already decided on killing her, so going along with Coin's idea by saying yes would have made it unlikely for Coin to suspect her of anything, which would make an opportunity for assassination more likely (if she had said "no," it's possible that Coin may have kept her distance from Katniss since she and Katniss didn't have an entirely smooth relationship to begin with...or at least she would have made damn sure not to give Katniss access to a bow with her around).

[erinptah]

I felt that way about Katniss after finishing the books, but the movies set up a reasonable explanation (and it's plausible in the books, too, just less obvious than it should be, especially since it's all from Katniss's POV...).

Coin sees Katniss's popularity as a potential threat to her power, and was prepared to do Bad Things if Katniss ever showed signs of turning against her. If Katniss wanted to survive to take down Coin -- if she even wanted Coin to trust her enough to leave open the opportunity -- she had to put up a front of supporting all Coin's plans 100%. That includes the Capitol Games.

...and now that I think about it, testing Katniss's loyalty might have been a conscious reason why Coin put a question like this to her in the first place. It's suspiciously well-tailored to be something she should hate.

[nonnymouscawitz]

Except that a) child murder is always bad and b) The entire point to Coin was that she was in it for the power. She wanted to be Snow. She was literally the other side of the coin.

[world_eater]

I agree.

But mainly because I read Farla's critique of the book and found it very plausible. Everything Coin does that "crosses the line" is absolute evululz, evil for the sake of showing how District 13 is just as bad as the Capitol!!!1

Why did she asplode the kids? To secure support? For -what-? She had won. She was the one who orchestrated the whole thing, she had all the support in the world. She could have offed Katniss easily, but instead chose to do some weird convoluted plot to kill her sister? Evululz. Why did she send Peeta instead of someone actually capable of killing Katniss? Evululz. Why did she try to convict the imprisoned victors for treason? ...You get my point.

She left the decision of new Hunger Games in the victors' hands and THEY chose to hold new ones. And if we're running by the books weird assumption that the Hunger Games were effective means to quell rebellion, then it is at least worth considering killing a few kids to make sure not more people die trying to overthrow the new government.

[insanenoodlyguy]

But it clearly wasn't effective. We saw a rebeillion born that consisted of several people from the games even. It was a failure.