[ SECRET POST #3382 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3382 ⌋

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Comments

[a_potato]

I'm not sure that that demonstrates that otherkin/fictionkin are dangerous. In this case, the manipulation revolved around that particular concept, but I think that girl would have found a way to manipulate and mistreat others regardless.

[lady_dragoon]

It wouldn't have been nearly as easy, though. Fictionkin and otherkin encourages people to reject and break with reality, which can result in far deeper manipulation than might otherwise be possible.

[a_potato]

People use various aspects of spirituality and religion to equal, and often greater, effect. Suicide cults don't revolve around otherkin; they revolve around charismatic men claiming to be prophets.

It's about tapping into the need to belong and to feel important. If you're good at doing that, then there are many, many ways to get someone to break with reality -- and many of them don't even look that strange from the outside.

[lady_dragoon]

Religious abuse is more about ensnaring a victim who is at a very low point in their lives (divorce, terminal illness, the death of a loved one, etc.) and telling them exactly what they want to hear, while at the same time cutting them off from all other influences. It takes a lot of effort on the part of the abuser; the rejection of reality is encouraged gradually, and the process of conversion and brainwashing takes years to get the victim completely under.

It's a lot easier to draw people into that illusion when the rejection of reality is done from the get-go. Because the faster they're over that initial hurdle, the deeper they can be pulled into the delusion. In the case of FF7 House, it only took a few months. That's frightening on so many levels.

[a_potato]

Hmm. Okay, that's fair.

You've given me a lot to think about.

[lady_dragoon]

You're welcome.. I think you're right in that they operate on the same principle, but otherkin/fictionkin has a much shorter trip into Crazyland. Religious cults take a long time to break people down and filter out the ones who are never going to give in. These other/fictionkin cliques work their harm very quickly because the weed-out process is immediate.

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno, I followed the antics of a 'pagan' nutjob for a while and she was very VERY good at targeting and isolating people and abusing them, bleeding them dry of money, then moving on quickly.

She targeted a forum I was a part of for her con and so keeping up with her antics became a forum pasttime. Like birdwatching, only it was cray-watching and often trying to help her victims.

[(Anonymous)]

Will you reveal the name to us?

[(Anonymous)]

At the time she went by Bri and had a partner named AJ who may or may not have been real.

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting point, but I think you might be too quick to dismiss that otherkin/fictionkin based manipulation also starts with a low point in the victims' lives. I haven't read it in a while, but the author of FF7 House makes it pretty clear he is not in a good place mentally or financially, and that helps the manipulation happen. Same place with Andy Whathisname/ Victoria Bitter - in fact, across his years of fictionkin manipulation you can see how he learnt to target vulnerable people. You can also see in both cases how the abusers basically followed the emotional abuse textbook in terms of isolating their victims from outside support.

Fictionkin predators go for a specific kind of vulnerable: instead of the type of people religious cults might victimise, they go for isolated, socially awkward young people with rich fantasy lives they use as coping mechanisms, and insecurities that manifest in a deep desire to be 'special', just like their fictional heroes. The abusers use the fictionkin fantasy to fill those holes, and take their pound of flesh along the way.

[lady_dragoon]

Good point. They still prey on vulnerable people, but rather than the desperate, they go after the highly suggestible.