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⌈ Secret Post #435 ⌋

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Hey #8, does this make it easier? (:

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Because too many people don't get that tragedy (in literature) =/= something really really sad, and that calling a character tragic is not the same as calling him/her sympathetic. (Though I know there are many fans who find Light sympathetic; this is a bit beside the point, however.)

Going purely by the text, Othello is pretty much a bastard whose redeeming qualities get swallowed up by his bugfuck craziness. He is also a tragic figure. I think you could probably apply the same standards to Light and come up with a similar analysis, but to be honest I didn't finish the manga, so I can't say myself. At any rate, his struggle (in the first four volumes) does seem to stem from his pride and his temptation at the hands of the supernatural/fate/whatever, to the point where he (to me) seemed to be almost a Macbeth figure.

That said, I don't think it really matters if fandom "understands" Light or L as being tragic. It's manga, you know? I think it's okay to have fun with it and read it on whatever level works best for you personally. Lots of manga and video games and TV shows are Shakespearean in scope and take themselves very seriously, but that only opens them up to more opportunities for fannish goofiness, I think. But I am not at all in the fandom and, as I said, I haven't actually finished the manga, so I concede that things could be much worse than what I'm imagining.

tl;dr aside: yeah, I agree. :)

It's just frustrating to be in a fandom with so very many fen who APPEAR to misunderstand the characters. And for some unholy reason, I've come to care about these two characters far out of proportion than I usually do, so I'm finally getting why people get so bent when they perceive another writer or artist NOT get their character. *laughs* Yes, I am being silly, and of course I can enjoy a story in any form without the fandom, but I prefer having a fun bunch of fen to hang and oooh and aah with.

Don't get me wrong. :) I really like the R/L comm. ;)

Thanks for clearing the sympathetic vs. tragic thing for me. I dint no no bettah. *laughs*

Oh, I understand. It can be very tough when everyone seems to love something that just goes so completely against your perception of a character. (Imagine if these writers/artists whose ideas don't mesh with your own were professionals and were allowed to play with the characters "officially." That's pretty much a huge chunk of the Western comics market, where I used to hang out. XP)

So I understand that it can be frustrating. And half the fun of fandom is having people to talk to about the characters you love, so if it seems like everybody disagrees with your pov...that would be frustrating.

The funny thing about tragedy is that in common usage, it usually just means something very sad or unjust (thus involving a degree of sympathy for involved parties), while in literature it generally indicates a kind of ironic flaw and/or conflict with destiny (which does not require the audience be sympathetic to the protagonist, allowing him/her to be more of an antihero). Sometimes it's hard to tell what a person means when they refer to a character or his/her situation as tragic, which I imagine would be...problematic in DN fandom.

Especially since Light is broadcast as being a tragic figure from the get-go, when Ryuk muses that there'd be no place for someone like Light in his own ideal world.

Anyway, sorry for rambling. I do understand what you mean, though. :)

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