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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-15 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3390 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3390 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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15. [SPOILERS for Friendship Is Magic, season 6's première]




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17. [WARNING for alleged assault and stuff]


[Trailer Park Boys]


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18. [WARNING for non-con/rape/abuse]


[A Song of Ice and Fire, Outlast]


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[personal profile] fscom 2016-04-15 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
20. [WARNING for non-con/dub-con]

http://i.imgur.com/tiHBJsh.jpg

Transcript by OP

[personal profile] fscom 2016-04-15 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know how to feel about omegaverse. On one hand I love noncon/dubcon and am genuinely interested in the worldbuilding. On the other hand forced pregnancy and gender roles squick me out so hard (I actually cried when reading a fic once) and most of the time I end up hating the characters and want them all to die.

(I know no one is forcing me to read it, this is just me being stupid)
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-04-15 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm more confused by the outrage over "This company is exploiting and stealing a fandom creation!!!!!"

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
wait, what?
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-04-15 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I first saw this mentioned on Tumblr because some people were saying it stole a fandom created idea. I've seen 2-3 posts about this. Let me see if I can find them.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Right secret?
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-04-15 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. I first saw this mentioned on Tumblr because some people were saying it stole a fandom created idea. I've seen 2-3 posts about this. Let me see if I can find them.

This is the only one I can find right now. This was a week or so ago, I am surprised I found this one.

http://chuuface.tumblr.com/post/142586897190/chuuface-today-i-was-in-kinokuniya-and-i-saw-this
Edited 2016-04-15 23:03 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You can't steal a fiction trope.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-04-15 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I know, that is why I don't get the people complaining.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
When someone contributes a secret about how they think the outrage about copyrighted omegaverse work is overblown, you're gonna be the first suspect.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah man, I agree with them its stupid as fuck. It's like when someone sends hate to the writer's of the show because "you ripped off my fanfic".
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[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2016-04-15 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, is omegaverse migrating out of fandom? good god

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It's escaped it's containment field! RUN!

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a fan creation? I always thought Omegaverse evolved out of Patricia Briggs' Mercy Thompson/Alpha and Omega series *feels sheepish*

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47 notes by someone you follow is hardly outrage or a blip...

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Anything where pregnancy is either forced or unavoidable (i.e. you can't avoid having sex, there is a high chance you will get pregnant if you have sex, and there is no birth control) is a big NOPE for me. Fortunately, there are a lot of ABO stories that put some time into worldbuilding and present a context where at least one of the above doesn't apply and pregnancy isn't a given (or they at least imply this is the case by having the characters simply never get pregnant). I've seen a few that actually explore how awful it would be if pregnancy was unavoidable (at least, without creative solutions) in an ABO universe. You still don't have to read them, of course, but not everyone uses the trope as an outlet for pregnancy kink and not everyone who reads them is into that.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2016-04-15 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I really feel the same, tbh.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I like A/B/O but it's definitely kind of hit or miss for fic. I like the worldbuilding and some of the kinks associated with it but not others. It's definitely a mixed bag what you're going to get in any given story - which kinks are going to be highlighted and how are the characters going to be written. I've managed to avoid reading too many stories that hit hard on gender stereotypes (although I personally wouldn't mind since I could kink on that). Most of what I've read seems to have avoided the common cliches people hate about A/B/O with regards to how it makes the characters act.

I don't have any triggers and only really hard core stuff squicks me, none of which are associated specifically with A/B/O. I'd probably avoid it if I did or only read with a trusted rec because it really can be anything. There are just so many variations that you never know what you'll get.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-15 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I too really like SOME of the kinks involved (the desperation, the dubcon elements, the existence of an AU social schema) and hate others (the weird bio-enforced gender roles, the knotting). Not to mention the usually shoddy worldbuilding even in the ones people say are good - it's always just a little tumblresque new terminology, vacation time and/or birth control options and awkwardly contrived sexism allegories. There's NEVER any consideration of how utterly sweepingly different society would actually be, because that's not the point. But the half-assedness bugs me almost as much as the porn squicks.

Anyway, it's not wrong for people to make what they like but it's really frustrating to be so conflicted about a popular thing, so I feel you OP.
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[personal profile] blitzwing 2016-04-15 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Just take the pregnancy out of it then? I've seen a few omegaverse fics where omeganess is vestigial and doesn't result in pregnancy any more. Or you could just read/write fic where they use contraceptives.
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[personal profile] ketita 2016-04-16 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, too many things about omegaverse squick me so hard. In the early days before I realized how much of a nope it was for me I read a few, and found myself EVERY SINGLE TIME wishing all the omegas would idk, rise up and overturn society and kill all the alphas and be free or something.
/doing it wrong

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
makes sense to me. I like to explore non-con/dub-con that is ingrained in the world building because, as women, I can relate it to the subtle undercurrent of sexual exploitation that I face in real life.

how do characters deal with it, how can they regain dignity? how is a good relationship possible, or how does it make it impossible? and sure, adding instinctual desperate sex is nice as well.

but the moment forced pregnancy and gender roles come up, it's too relatable. I don't want to be reminded of the actual gender roles, which is precisely why I ship so few het ships. omegaverses are often het gender roles dialed up to 210%.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-04-16 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
Same. I enjoy it for some aspects, but the whole mpreg thing squicks me hard. Pregnancy in most fic irritates me. I really don't enjoy any A/B/O 'verse where people are basically defined by 'what' they are, and that's all anybody talks about or notices or anything. Meh.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
yeah ngl self-lubrication and heats are cool, I'd even be up for the knotting portion

but the gross "breeding" aspects and pregnancy have made it so I don't go anywhere near omegaverse stuff