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[ SECRET POST #3390 ]

⌈ Secret Post #3390 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. http://i.imgur.com/TosMoCO.gif
[moving gif, Jensen Ackles]

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[Animal Crossing]

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[Amanda Palmer]

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[Shadowhunters TV show]

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[Iggy Pop, David Bowie]

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[The Magicians]

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14. [SPOILERS for Far Cry 4]

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15. [SPOILERS for Friendship Is Magic, season 6's première]

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16. [SPOILERS for Dangan Ronpa]

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17. [WARNING for alleged assault and stuff]

[Trailer Park Boys]

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18. [WARNING for non-con/rape/abuse]

[A Song of Ice and Fire, Outlast]

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19. [WARNING for rape]

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20. [WARNING for non-con/dub-con]

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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From the link that started this thread? The person we're talking about? Who you said Hillary was just as disgusting as?

Oh okay get where you're coming from. I misread your sentence (didn't see the first "as" there). I thought you meant, "As someone who wants to physically beat the shit out of Trans people, you think Hillary Clinton is disgusting?".

Now to answer your intended question...Yes Hillary is just as disgusting as him. The kind of things she says promotes hatred of gay and trans people. Hillary wouldn't say anything like he did, because she's not violent. But she will say the kinds of things that make people like him think it's okay to be violent towards trans and gay people.

She'll say things that make us seem lesser, other, inferior, second-class citizens, acceptable targets. She'll say things that lead to our oppression and subjugation, and for some of us, our deaths.

Only unlike that sheriff, she pretends to be our friend (when it suits her) and our ally, pretends to be compassionate and egalitarian. Meanwhile she contributes to our violent deaths.

Edited 2016-04-16 00:24 (UTC)

The kind of things she says promotes hatred of gay and trans people. Hillary wouldn't say anything like he did, because she's not violent. But she will say the kinds of things that make people like him think it's okay to be violent towards trans and gay people.

She'll say things that make us seem lesser, other, inferior, second-class citizens, acceptable targets. She'll say things that lead to our oppression and subjugation, and for some of us, our deaths.

Reliable source or GTFO.

Source for what? For the idea that talking about people as inferior and unequal others/dehumanizes them, making it easier for people to justify attacking them or treating them badly? That's a social psychology basic.

Typically, in academic writing, you aren't supposed to cite things that are well-known and that you can take it for granted your audience is already aware of.

Edited 2016-04-16 00:33 (UTC)

Where did she say that? Specific quotes, with video, or shut the fuck up.

Where did she say what? I didn't attribute any statement to her, so I have no idea what you're asking for quotes for.

Where did she say anything like what you're describing? Source with video or get the fuck out and shut the fuck up.

Where did she say things that make LGBT people out to be inferior and second-class? I can provide you with a laundry list--although I don't have to. You're perfectly capable of doing your own research--and once again, anyone speaking of Clinton's politics should be familiar with her basic positions and statements. I can talk about any subject as much as I'd like to without providing you with anything.

Since I'm such a kind person, I will dig up some sources for you later. They won't be video though. You should consider that because of accessibility issues, not everyone can access information via video--so it's rather ableist of you to insist on it.

So you're pulling claims out of your ass, as usual.

Seriously, just fuck off, you piece of shit. Shut up, fuck off, stop posting.

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DA

I believe they're asking for proof that she "say[s] things that make [lgbt people] seem lesser, other, inferior, second-class citizens, acceptable targets... that lead to [their] oppression and subjugation" and that "[Clinton] contributes to [their] violent death"s.

Do you seriously have the memory of a house plant or are you just playing your usual fucking mind games?

This is what you said:

The kind of things she says promotes hatred of gay and trans people. Hillary wouldn't say anything like he did, because she's not violent. But she will say the kinds of things that make people like him think it's okay to be violent towards trans and gay people.

She'll say things that make us seem lesser, other, inferior, second-class citizens, acceptable targets. She'll say things that lead to our oppression and subjugation, and for some of us, our deaths.

You are claiming all this of Hillary. You are being asked for sources. Either post those sources, or stop posting.

I gotta skedaddle off to work, but I'll happily share some sources on Hillary later.

My issue with the nonny's request is that they seemed to be asking for quotes about a specific statement or claim.

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Can you give some examples of times when Hillary has said "the kind of things [that promote] hatred of gay and trans people" or "the kinds of things that make people like him think it's okay to be violent towards trans and gay people".

You said that she said things of that kind. I am interested in specific examples of things of that kind or tendency which she has said.

Ain't gonna happen because Blitzwing is a career shitposter.

The plus side of it is, if they don't reply, none of us ever have to take them seriously ever a fucking gain about anything.

*checks thread*

Looks like we have our answer!

Here you go nonny, I answered it in the next FS post: http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1400336.html?thread=904452368#cmt904452368

I'm going to be freezing some of the subthreads in this thread that are branching out into only insultfights, but not all of it so that blitzwing can reply with sources if they get them. (I hope that's fair enough, since the debate is about the sources and freezing everything would remove all potential/necessity of sources being provided here.)

ETA: and if insults are ALL there is, then I'm deleting those.

Edited 2016-04-16 00:57 (UTC)

I guarantee you Blitzwing will not be providing sources. She's been disingenuous this entire thread to avoid having to actually back her statements up, and has stated outright she's under no obligation do so anyway -- which is true, but it betrays her broader intent to just shitpost and run.

I suggest you just freeze the whole thing and save people from wasting their time waiting for Blitzy to engage in adult conversation.

I'm not judging intent, I'm pruning wank and leaving the possibility open if they choose to take it.

No anon. Leaving it open is the only way to prove either of you right.

Think about it.

"I couldn't post any sources because the thread was frozen"

Welp, looks like she did her shitpost-and-run thing. Can we lock the thread now? Maybe ban her ass finally?

Nah, I just posted in the next FS post since this one is kinda dead. Here it is: http://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/1400336.html?thread=904452368#cmt904452368

And much thanks to Case for leaving the thread open!

I looked up what she says. It seems like she consistently avoids talking about trans people as a distinct group, always saying "LGBT." I guess that's bad, but it's still loads better than all those politicians who refer to transwomen as "he" and "him."

Even that wouldn't come close to what blitzwing said. They said that Hillary's language causes violence to both gay and trans people.

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