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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-15 06:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #3390 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3390 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02. http://i.imgur.com/TosMoCO.gif
[moving gif, Jensen Ackles]


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[Animal Crossing]


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[Amanda Palmer]


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[Shadowhunters TV show]


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[Iggy Pop, David Bowie]


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[The Magicians]


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14. [SPOILERS for Far Cry 4]




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15. [SPOILERS for Friendship Is Magic, season 6's première]




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16. [SPOILERS for Dangan Ronpa]




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17. [WARNING for alleged assault and stuff]


[Trailer Park Boys]


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18. [WARNING for non-con/rape/abuse]


[A Song of Ice and Fire, Outlast]


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19. [WARNING for rape]




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20. [WARNING for non-con/dub-con]




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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #484.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Did the popularity of books like Twilight and 50 Shades fly over your head? That wasn't even a tiny niche group like fandom, it was the general public embracing that shit.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
I must have missed the part where Christian Grey knocked out most of Ana's teeth to the point where she was unable to eat solid food. Or skinned her fingers before chopping them off. Or how he refused to let her bathe to the point that she was covered in filth and forced to sleep with dogs. I hope you get my point at how stupid your comparison is.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
My point being that abuse against women in fiction is accepted by normies seems to have gone over your head, but okay. Keep judging a small inconsequential group from that high horse of yours, OP. Fight the good fight.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not talking about stuff like Twilight. I'm talking about actual body mutilation and driving the other person insane.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
How very pedantic of you. You also keep dodging like a champ.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
Dodging what? Tell me the m/f counterpart to Ramsay and Theon because bringing up something like Twilight shows you have nothing to stand on.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
Ramsay/Jeyne, Ramsay/Sansa, and Joffrey/Sansa exists. There is actually fic and porn out there of Ramsay making Jeyne fuck his dogs. The second most common victim of rape in ASOIAF fanfic after Theon is Sansa.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
They exist but they're not as nearly as prevalent. There are hundreds of Ramsay/Theon fics on Ao3 and about maybe 50 for Sansa/Ramsay. There's only 39 for Ramsay/Jeyne. You're comparing something that's hugely popular within fandom to something that's barely on the radar.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
So you're gonna overlook my last sentence then?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Most of the Sansa rape fics I've seen are hurt/comfort as opposed to people getting off on her being tortured.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Dany/Drogo is pretty beloved too. Hell, people on tumblr, and arguably the books themselves, think it's downright romantic.

>inb4 "but muh genital mutilation", which is far worse than romanticizing the relationship between a 13 year old girl and her pedophile rapist

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
pssst, there's a magical place called gurochan. maybe you should visit it some day. you'll probably find all that and more happening to girls.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
Not gonna lie I always view comments like these as "Quick! They're saying bad things about slash, let's throw some smokebombs to distract!"

The OP is absolutely right. Stuff like 50 Shades and Twilight is gross and weird but it's definitely not "Gay serial killer wants to cut off your penis and sew the breasts of a corpse on you and drill you a new vagina in a horrifyingly close allegory of both homophobia and trans panic" levels either. Fangirls especially for some reason seem to gravitate towards some hardcore torture porn scenarios while still thinking it's "squeee socute omigod". That's what OP is talking about. Things like 50 Shades and Twilight are gross too and absolutely deserve to be talked about if someone wants to make a secret, but this secret isn't about that, and OP is right that it's pretty rare, unless you specifically go onto like, guro boards, to find casual male/female pairings where the woman is outright beaten and tortured and people still find it "kawaii hawt".

Re: OP

[personal profile] sachiko_san 2016-04-16 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Are you talking about Eddie Gluskin? Because he's not gay, he went after men because he didn't have access to women and he feminized the hell out of them right before killing them.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2016-04-16 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno, to me it's just shaming girls for fapping to something gross while turning a blind eye to the prevalence of hentai rape or guro, the vast, vast majority of which involves female characters being brutalized. It's yet again an example of men's kinks getting a pass.

Also, I can't speak for the Outlast fandom, but I've never seen any Thramsay shipper believe their ship is genuinely "kawaii" unless it was tongue-in-cheek. Maybe you're deliberately choosing to overlook that part or are incapable of detecting tongue-in-cheek humor because it gives you an excuse to be outraged.