[ SECRET POST #3393 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3393 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 052 secrets from Secret Submission Post #485.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Re: Redemption

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's not about what he did, it's about why he did it.

Tumblr users who compare Kylo to white men who open fire in American schools are very clear about not perpetuating the belief that the white American men have any kind of trauma or mental condition that led them to do it. They are perfectly sane, generally content individuals who do it because of entitlement about some tiny thing like a girl rejecting them.

But that's not Kylo. Right now Tumblr is dismissing his motive as being a spoiled brat with daddy issues, which fits their white male shooter narrative nicely. But it ignores the whole influence of the Force that you can't apply to real life, the hints that this has been used by Snoke to manipulate and brainwash him, and the possibility that maybe, just maybe those "daddy issues" aren't so petty after all -- but noooo, we can't have that, that would require worse than they want to believe their precious Han and Leia are capable of.

SA

[(Anonymous)]

Oh and if anyone sees this and replies, I'm pretty sure they're going to miss the point and say something sarcastic like "Ohhhh, yes that TOTALLY makes what he did okay then" so to get it out of the way: I never said that it did, I'm only saying why it's stupid to compare Kylo Ren to real life school shooters, especially as Tumblr sees them.

Re: SA

[fishnchips]

Thank you, and yes, agreed. I got tired very quickly of all the "lol emo Crylo Ren, typical cis white MRA" in this fandom.

Re: Redemption

[(Anonymous)]

If the character had been written or acted with that level of nuance, you might have a point. But he wasn't, so you don't. You are, of course, entitled to any head canons that float your boat. That's all this is, though. A head canon that makes you feel better about the character.

Re: Redemption

[fishnchips]

He absolutely was acted with that level of nuance. And he was also written like that to a point - you just didn't pay any attention to the subtext.

Re: Redemption

[(Anonymous)]

You're grasping for straws and calling it subtlety. The movie was fun, but not as nearly deep as you'd have to pretend it is to justify your interpretation of the character. The bubblegum wrappers aren't a secret message and Martin Freeman isn't supporting Johnlock with his microexpressions.

Re: Redemption

[fishnchips]

Nobody said it was deep. Thing is, what the other anon said is in the movie, and not even in a subtle way. If you missed it, that's your problem, but people like you are the ones grasping at straws to keep their unfitting analogies alive just because you apparently slept through key scenes/missed massively obvious and unsubtle implications/don't know how acting works.

Re: Redemption

[(Anonymous)]

Whatever helps you keep the dream alive. Ron Weasley is so Dumbledore!

Re: Redemption

[fishnchips]

What.

Re: Redemption

[(Anonymous)]

The people like you are the ones who seem to think the movie is deep. Every Tumblr essay talks about how subversive and brilliant it was to make its villain in the mold of the true terror we face today, the cishet white American male. Which is just lmao. Nobody who worked on the film was trying to make the grand social commentary you want them to be making. They were just trying to make characters general audiences would enjoy and have "feels" about.