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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-19 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3394 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3394 ⌋

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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-04-19 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I still say the biggest issue for me is that the author doesn't recognize the stalker behavior and thinks that stuff is romantic. I'm all for fiction being fiction and I dislike Twilight a lot less than I used to. But it still makes me uncomfortable that the author doesn't recognize the problems and thinks that sort of behavior is perfectly okay.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-19 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
But that's fairly common in romance, I'd even call the norm in paranormal romance. Twilight gets targeted because it's the most popular example of it, but it's definitely not the worst.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-04-19 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I agree. I dislike it in general when authors don't recognize the creepy behavior of their characters. I think it is more blatant in Twilight because of Meyers' conservative Mormon beliefs, but it is common in the genre. I'm totally fine with characters being creepy, it just bugs me when authors don't think the creepy stuff is creepy.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-19 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Meyer is a Mormon?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-04-19 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
omfg this question is killing me for some reason

(Anonymous) 2016-04-19 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
What makes you think the author thinks it's OK in real life?
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[personal profile] philstar22 2016-04-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
At least with Meyers she's said things in interviews that at least make it seem like she does. And there are other authors that seem to as well (Sherrilyn Kenyion for one). Many don't, and that's fine with me. If they want to write creepy stuff that's great. Not always my cup of tea, but fiction is fiction. I just get uncomfortable when it seems like authors don't understand that their characters are acting creepy.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-19 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
But maybe they don't think their characters are acting creepy because it's not real to them.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
It still doesn't mean it's okay to justify creppy and stalkerish behavior...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
You mean it's not okay to justify creepy and stalkerish behavior by imaginary men.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
anon, just look at the numerous interviews SMeyer has given

Edward is basically SMeyer's dream/ideal boyfriend and she sees his actions as romantic

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
.... Because it's her fantasy. It's barely even fiction. It's just wish fulfillment fantasy. Of course Edward is her dream boyfriend. She can control his every action.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Kind of playing devil's advocate here, but could Edward's vaguely stalkerish behavior be interpreted similarly to sexual harassment, ie. it is that BECAUSE it is unwanted? In Meyer's eyes, Edward's behavior is totally romantic and wanted, therefore it can't be stalking.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-20 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course that's why it's interpreted as harassment. But those critics seem to be completely clueless about how women's stalker fantasies work. These women view it as romantic because OMG, he wants her *that much*. That doesn't mean they think it would be romantic to be stalked in real life.