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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-04-23 03:09 pm

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Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
... The difference between effect and affect?

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Effect is a noun, affect is (usually) a verb.

"I am not affected by your bullshit."

"Your bullshit does not have any effect on me."

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok. Now can someone please explain in dumb-dumb terms the difference between a noun and a verb.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
uhh... really?

Nouns: items. things. names, places, objects.

Verbs: actions

A noun does a verb, sometimes a noun does a verb to another noun.

I (noun) eat (verb) cake (noun).

Cats (noun) have (verb) whiskers (noun).

The effect (noun) of the Great Depression was enormous.

The Great Depression primarily affected (verb) the working class.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
this person could be ESL
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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-04-23 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Nouns and verbs aren't exclusively English constructs. Basically all natural languages distinguish things from actions.
Edited 2016-04-23 23:39 (UTC)

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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-04-23 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you sleep during middle school English classes or...?

Nouns are things, verbs are actions. And though the other anon didn't mention it, adjectives are descriptions.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
DA Dethtoll, please don't be rude because someone doesn't know something that you do. When someone's trying to learn something, stuff like this can really affect their chances of asking the next time they don't know something. In fact, it's this kind of stuff that generally stops adults from learning. They're too afraid of looking stupid or being picked on to ask.
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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[personal profile] dethtoll 2016-04-23 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Tell it to the anon above me then. Either this person slept through school, or their school failed them. Nouns, verbs, etc. are all basic language stuff everyone should know. Not knowing the difference between "effect" and "affect" is one thing and that's fine, it's entirely another thing to not even have a basic idea of how your own language works. It's not like there aren't resources for this stuff everywhere. Somewhere along the line, someone fucked up, and I'm all out of benefit of the doubt today, come back tomorrow.

I'm also strongly leaning towards the idea that AIRT is having a giggle so it'd be all moot anyway yeah?

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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
No, if you're a grown human being and you go onto the internet not knowing the very fucking basics of how language works you deserve everything people throw at you. There's just no excuse, and dethtoll is doing everyone a favor by making this guy confront is ignorances or, failing that, fuck off out of our community.

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(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's just me, but you seem to have turned into a real prick since your dad died. Maybe you should take a break from the internet?

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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the way I always remember it: a verb is a doing word and a noun is a name.

I think you have to just learn how they work in a grammar.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Verbs are the central part of speech in Indo-European grammar systems.

In the English language, the sentence,
I eat cake.
has the verb "eat." "I" is the subject, indicating who eats. And "cake" is the direct object, indicating what is eaten.

In the English language, the sentence,
I cause an effect.
has the verb "cause." "I" is the subject, indicating who causes. And "(an) effect" is the direct object, indicating what is caused.

The sentence,
That affected me deeply.
has the verb "affected." "That" is the subject, indicating what affected. Then, "me" is the direct object, indicating who was affected. Finally, "deeply" is an adverb modifying the verb "affected."

To use "effect" as a verb, see the sentence,
I effected change.
has the verb "effected." "I" is the subject, indicating who effected. And "change" is the direct object, indicating what was effected.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
A noun is a person, place, or thing!

Anon from before.

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Have some Schoolhouse Rock!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0m89e9oZko

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
you dont even have a hope.
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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-04-24 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
I can never remember the difference either anon. I usually go N = Name = Noun. Therefore verb must be a "doing word".

Fuck adjectives.

For affect vs effect, I remember them as "the magic Affected them, having a burning Effect" - then I backwards chain the sentence I want to use the word in to see if it fits better with the first half or latter half.

Affect = Action. A = A.

When in doubt, Google
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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2016-04-24 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
Adjectives are descriptions.

Also, adverbs alter verbs.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
One starts with an a and the other an e.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
LOL. Cute, but wrong answer. They're not the same.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-24 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
Nope, answer is correct because OP asked what the difference was. And that is the one, simplest difference between the two words and this answer is it. The OP didn't ask for definitions....

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Affect = Action
Effect = End result

If it comes after "an" or "the" it'll 99% be "effect." The effect. The end result. An end result.

If it doesn't come after "an" or "the" it'll 99% be "affect." A affect-ed B. A affects B.

Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

(Anonymous) 2016-04-23 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Not op but this was excellently put!
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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[personal profile] caerbannog 2016-04-24 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
Clever!
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Re: Can somone please explain in dumb-dumb terms...

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2016-04-23 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
If you affect something, that means you do something to it. (Much like "work" in a physics sense.) Then you have an effect on it.

Alternatively, to effect something is to make it happen. I affect the thing I change, but I effect the change.

"Affect" as a noun is less common, and while I think I understand it in context, I'll just quote the Wiktionary page on 'affect':
affect
Etymology 3
(psychology) A subjective feeling experienced in response to a thought or other stimulus; mood, emotion, especially as demonstrated in external physical signs. [from 19th c.]

Affect and effect can both be used as nouns or verbs, but when used as a noun the word affect is limited to the above psychology uses and the definitions for effect are much more common.