[ SECRET POST #3400 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3400 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Secret of Crickley Hall]


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03.
[Longmire]


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04.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiKj0Z_Xnjc]


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05.
[Great British Bake Off]


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06.
[The West Wing]


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07.
[Kim Possible]


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08.
(Free! Iwabi Swim Club)


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09.
[Hyper Light Drifter]


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10.
[Sword of Truth]


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11.
[Count Cain/Godchild and Kuroshitsji]


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12.
[Discworld]


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13.
[assassination classroom]


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14.
[Monster Pop!]


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15.
["Magical Diary: Horse Hall" and "Harry Potter”]


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16.
[Silmarillion]


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17.
[Once Upon a Time]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 084 secrets from Secret Submission Post #486.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. Anime creators love to do this. They see what gay bait ships people like and then they add more subtext based on that in later seasons. I'm pretty sure they did that with Maki/Nico in Love Live! and if they make another Osomatsu-san season, I'm sure there's going to be a lot more good 'ol Ichi/Kara incest subtext.

But yeah, you're right. Rin/Haru got WAY more subtext in S1 to the point that Mako/Haru fans were crying over that gay-ass last episode where Rin was crying on top of Haru while they were surrounded by cherry blossoms. But since Makoto ended up selling more merchandise, they delivered to the fans in S2.

[(Anonymous)]

The machinations on the part of the creators were so apparent with this particular show that I find it kinda extra embarrassing for fans to start drama and war over which pairings were more canon and whatnot. I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with taking the bait and drinking the Kool-Aid if it's all in good fun, but could we at least acknowledged how we're being played?

+1

[(Anonymous)]

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

You know, I find it kind of odd that the only time I've ever heard creators delivering on fan interest as "drinking the Kool-Aid" is if there's butthurt shippers in the wings who weren't happy with said "delivering on fan interest".

Seriously, I don't give a shit about any of these pairings, I saw Free! for exactly what it was, and that includes the first season too which you and AYRT seem to be implying was the "true ending" or something. But acting like the creators delivering on fan interest and hype (Korrasami anyone?) is suddenly "drinking the Kool-Aid" in the context of this particular show is letting your overfilled salt reserves show.

[(Anonymous)]

lol mte.

You will also only ever hear the phrase "drinking the Kool-Aid" used in reference to same-sex pairings, but take that as you will I guess

[(Anonymous)]

you can't think of any het love triangles where writers pandered to both sides & played on what was most popular in the fandoms? none at all?

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly, lmao. This person is just being disingenuous or they've never watched Western television in their life.

[(Anonymous)]

nope I can't, actually. not with the same disdain of "IT WILL NEVER BE CANON THEY ARE OBVIOUSLY JUST FRIENDS".

it's funny that you act like this has nothing to do with the fact that we're talking about same-sex pairings though

[(Anonymous)]

are you new to anime? specifically the sports/any fanservice genres? there's a long, long history of anime that only exist to pander to (usually straight!) fans.

they really are all just friends, and were never intended to be explicitly canon (or any kind of gay representation, lmfao), because that's how these anime work. it's how it was in prince of tennis, oofuri, kuroko's basketball, haikyuu, tsuritama, hetalia...

it's extremely rare for any m/m pairing to become canon outside the yaoi genre! this is what we've had to live with since i was first getting into anime, at least? it really is just stating facts, idk what else to tell you.

[(Anonymous)]

You can try to muster up as much outrage as you want but it doesn't make me wrong. Free isn't representation, just pandering, and when we buy into said pandering and shut down servers ordering merch then we are drinking their Kool-Aid, plain and simple. I'm actually fine with it.

[(Anonymous)]

Why...would we be salty? We were just pointing out the creators made a choice in the direction the show would go based on merch sales and interest. Neither of us are implying that the first season is the "true ending."

Why would you compare Free! to Korrasami? That's stupid lol. Free! was meant to be fujoshi bait that wasn't actually gay representation in the slightest. The creators flat-out said that they intended Korrasami to be interpreted as a positive romantic same gender relationship. In the case of Korrasami, I think the fan interest and hype was a very positive thing because it resulted in the creators actually doing their best to push gay representation in a kids' show.

What Free! did was neither positive or negative. It was just a matter of sales. I don't really ship Makoto/Haru or Rin/Haru (I was one of those rare Reigisas lol), so I'm definitely not "salty" over what Free! did.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

You seriously don't see what's wrong with labeling Makoto/Haru "drinking the Kool-Aid" lol? Like you couldn't pick a more condescending, "butthurt" (to quote AYRT) way to explain your point if you tried. Just because they chose to pander to their largest demographic doesn't mean anyone "drank the Kool-Aid". How about we phrase it differently? "The creators were so smart to take fandom into account for season two. They created much more sales for themselves, created and adapted more likeable characters, and gave the fandom what they were hoping for, therefore increasing likely sales in the future and fostering good will within the fandom."

Sounds a little better than "drinking the Kool-Aid". If you don't think that was meant in a condescending, "haha stoopid little shippers" way I don't know what to tell you. It's pretty obvious other anons are picking up on the unfortunate wording too.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh. I'm finding it really weird that you're bent out of shape about the wording. Why do you care that much?

"The creators were so smart to take fandom into account for season two. They created much more sales for themselves, created and adapted more likeable characters, and gave the fandom what they were hoping for, therefore increasing likely sales in the future and fostering good will within the fandom."

I'm sorry, but this phrasing is really silly. I think I'll say, "The creators wanted money. Makoto sold a bunch of merch, so they pimped out the Makoto/Haru in S2. The shippers ate it up." If you want to be positive about the whole thing, go on ahead, but, like I said, I don't particularly see it as positive or negative.

I'm a shipper myself, but I don't see what's all that offensive about the phrasing. People get pandered to when they like popular shit. That's the way the world works. Yay capitalism lol!

[(Anonymous)]

This thin-skinned, reactionary antic is exactly the kind of embarrassing lack of self-awareness that warrants "mean" phrasings such as "drinking the Kool-Aid". This thread is goddamn a case study in the exact thing y'all are protesting so hard, it's beautiful.

[(Anonymous)]

In the context of that comment, "drinking the Kool-Aid" was in reference to all shipping in the fandom, not particularly MakoHaru, if that will make you feel better.

+1 million

[(Anonymous)]

Seriously lmfaaaooooo. I actually choked on my drink when I read that. Anon couldn't be any more transparent about shit if they tried.

[(Anonymous)]

New anon here:

I liked both pairings pretty equally, and I still agree with the anon you're replying to? Of course, I never finished season 2 because I wasn't that invested & didn't like the new dude, but it is incredibly silly to start up ship wars in a show based completely and entirely in fujoshi pandering. Both sides kinda do just look like they totally lack self-awareness.

(I mean, I was never in the fandom much, but I loathed Rei/Nagisa & the whiny kid Rei was roommates with, and got so tired of the fighting over who Haru should bone I ended up spitefully shipping Rin/Rei, so ... I'm probably the odd one out here in any case)

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

Ah yet here you are, starting shipper drama and accusing "the opposition" of being butthurt for even daring to imply that we fans (not any one faction) are all transparently being manipulated by the creators of the show for monetary purpose. And you don't even know if I ship anything from Free! This comment in reply to the sentiment I expressed strikes me as highly illustrative. Your Korrasami comparison makes no sense though; the situations surrounding the two were very, very different, and for that matter, so were the deliveries. Free was all subtext no confirmation, KS was practically the opposite.

The comment below desperately trying to paint this as an anti-gay issue (in anime? ahahahahaha) is also particularly wonderful and so, so typical of this fandom. Never change.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

lol stop playin'. you know you ship shit from free! literally nobody in this thread is participating in the drama ~just becuz~.

[(Anonymous)]

The cherry on top of this cake of irony and dumbfuckery is that I'm SouRin. Yeah, the pairing that probably only exists due to pandering. Kyoani must have created Sousuke and that ship in a lab using specifications compiled strictly from my search history or something.

The difference between you and me is that I know and accept this reality, and don't take special affront to "condescending" phrasings from strangers on the Internet who must surely be talking about my pairing, after all it's soooooo canon what else is there.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a rinharu fan and when they came right out and said that they released the rinharu mook after great fan demand, I was like "...yeah? obviously??"

I mean this series is all about the cookie-cutter pairings after S2, so there was no way they were going to make merch for anything but the "main" pairings of their own volition. I think it's fantastic that fans can band together and express their desire for some kind of merch and GET THAT MERCH, nothing to be salty about.