[ SECRET POST #3404 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3404 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

11. http://i.imgur.com/qtHYrvp.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I would have assumed by unrealistic, they meant "unrealistic for that character" - as in, that character would not have done that. Though "out of character" would have been a less ambiguous way to put it.

I haven't seen the movies in a long time, so I don't remember exactly how he was. Going by the screencap, I could see my dad being like that.

[(Anonymous)]

Everything about Denethor in the movies makes me cringe. It feels so hammy and over-the-top, and I hate how badly they messed up the character.

I can't take him seriously because of the acting and such, but I could believe that someone would treat their kid that way.

[(Anonymous)]

Meh, I "like" Denethor more in the movies than in the books. He's creates a more interesting dynamic in the world exactly because he's crueler. And he is necessary to create sympathy for Faramir - yes, yes, the movies changed him too, but honestly I think "extremes" are better in movies than they are in books.

[(Anonymous)]

I think "extremes" are better in movies than they are in books.

Yeah I do too, but I think the movies overdid it a bit with Denethor. The more obvious cruelty towards Faramir I didn't mind, but I did mind the one-dimensionality of his dislike of the idea of Aragorn becoming king, and his despair, which seemed more cowardly in the movies rather than a deep-seated sincere despair of Sauron ever being defeated as in the books, and I don't think that would have been hard to do in the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

He never came across overdone to me. I rather thought it was supposed to be a reminder that the "bad guys" are sometimes humans, not everything "bad" is a supernatural force or mutated, ugly creature. Making this guy a dick beyond what would be reasonably expected from being Sauron's influence, whether directly or not, felt more real. Probably wasn't how Tolkien intended it, but to me, Denethor was a terrifying figure because he was more "real" than Sauron.

[likeadeuce]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

Denethor is NOT a "bad guy," though. And thinking that he is one is missing the point of his character.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed, OP. It's one thing to complain that it was OOC for Denethor, but if people think it's unrealistic for a father to treat his son that way... well, they must live sheltered lives and I'm envious of them.

[(Anonymous)]

The thing I didn't like was they made him dumber. In the books, he was severe, crafty, intelligent, cold. In the movies he acts like a pouty man-child. Having an intelligent foil to Gandalf in the books was way more interesting than seeing Gandalf placating a baby.

[philstar22]

This was my biggest dislike of him. I wasn't much fond of how one-dimensional he was, but I especially hated losing his intelligence.

[bio_obscura]

I'm sorry you had to deal with that growing up, OP.