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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-03-19 05:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #438 ]


⌈ Secret Post #438 ⌋

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Secrets Left to Post: 11 pages, 254 secrets from Secret Submission Post #063.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 ] broken links, [ 1 2 3 4 ] not!secrets, 0 not!fandom, [ 1 2 ] too big, [ 1 ] posted twice, [ 1] what.
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

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(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
57. Seriously. Dude. Seriously! If you weren't behind the cover of anon I would e-slap you so hard. GAY MEN ARE NOT ACCESSORIES! JESUS!

I really don't see why so many girls yearn for a gay best friend. Newsflash honey, one gay best friend turns into knowing every gay boy in the community, then Saturday nights meeting nice straight boys turn into Saturday nights at the gay bar getting snubbed by the horny buggers that only care about you if you have a penis, or being oohed and aahed over by the nice people that you'd want to be friends with for real (that's not so bad).

Oh you can't forget that in some cases, everybody sleeps with fucking everybody, which causes loads of drama. For example, your four best friends aren't talking to each other because 1 loves 2, 2 slept with 3 and 1, 3 loves 1 and has slept with him once or twice. 1 hates 3 for sleeping with 2. 4 loves 3 and has slept with 3 and is best friends with 1 but hates 1 at the same time for sleeping with 3 and breaking 3's heart... I'm leaving out the common links/fuck buddies that I'm not friends with that only make the situation worse. And all the while you're in the middle.

TL;DR GAY MEN ARE PEOPLE TOO AND ARE MORE COMPLICATED THEN LET'S GO SHOPPING, GET OUR NAILS DONE, CHECK OUT HOT BOYS, AND DO GAY STUFF. THEY HAVE JUST AS MANY ISSUES AS YOUR STRAIGHT FRIENDS. And God help you if you've fallen for one because that sucks hardcore and makes you look... kind of pathetic.

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
...how do you know 57 OP's not a gay man himself?

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I don't. But the rant still applies to lameass yaoi fangirls that think of gay men as stereotypes and want one to be their bff and fangirl over yaoi with them.

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'll give you that one, I suppose. I've never heard of people assuming gay men would do that with you.

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
What about us girls who fall for a gay man before knowing that he's gay? Are we pathetic because we weren't psychic?

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
In the group I hang with it's fine. But girls that fall for openly gay men are mocked like no other.

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
Last I checked falling for someone didn't mean there was computability. Why mock?

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
IDK. I've never asked them. For the most part they (the guys I know... which is like everyone in the gay community in my city XD) think it's pretty pathetic. You don't openly admit that you like a gay guy if you know there's no chance, yeah? Only reason you generally openly tell someone you like them is if you want to get with them.

And some girls are just... honestly pathetic. One girl I know would like... just always touch him and try to get him off and stuff. And he was always like 'Dude, I'm fucking gay.'

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
...gay woman falls for straight woman, gay woman tells straight woman in full knowledge that straight woman will not reciprocate, straight woman does not laugh or mock. All is peaceful. Where is the problem?

One girl I know would like... just always touch him and try to get him off and stuff. And he was always like 'Dude, I'm fucking gay.'

That's called 'creepy', not 'yaoi fangirl'.

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for living in your idealistic little world but things really aren't that black and white. I don't know, maybe I only hang out with twats, but the kind of easy acceptance you described isn't particularly a common occurance, more common with a lesbian and a straight girl, but men are different from women.

I'm aware that I'm slightly stereotyping here, but a lot of gay men are "extremely judgemental, and dramatic, and divas". Those words from the mouth of my best friend. And I have more than enough first hand experience of gay men acting like this to say that yes, it's true. And I have seen gay boys sit around and bash the poor little straight girl that has a crush on one of them. It's kind of a favorite way to kick things up at a party when things are slowing down. Let's sit down and talk about the lame fag hag that likes me and follows me everywhere and is totally in love with me.

I'm not saying it's right. But it happens. A lot.

Sorry, I mean fanbrat then. Technicality.

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
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<i.Thanks for living in your idealistic little world but things really aren't that black and white. I don't know, maybe I only hang out with twats, but the kind of easy acceptance you described isn't particularly a common occurance, more common with a lesbian and a straight girl, but men are different from women.</i>

That situation was me, as it happens. Not everyone can arrange their emotions around another person's preferences in regards to gender. Sometimes this stuff just happens, and it's better to be honest about it than turn into a stereotypical angstmonkey.

There's a distinct possibility that you hang out with twats. Nobody I know would act like that and still be considered a decent person.

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not saying that it's right. Or good. Or lovely that the guys do this. I'm saying that, in my experiences, it happens and is a common occurance even. Not everyone is as easily accepting about those sorts of things. Some people feel uncomfortable being liked by someone of the gender they're not attracted to.

And some people that have those emotions don't handle them maturely and can come off as creepy and obsessed even. It's not right but it happens.

Like I said, the situation isn't black and white.

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
...ah, bollocks to my html.

Clearly not, but I think people ought to handle it with a little maturity on both sides.

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree completely. Unfortunately, all my experiences come from the immaturity side. The obsessive girls. The boys being twats about it because, most of the time for them, the girls are obsessive and creepy.

I do have a very jaded view of the whole situation.

And the huge dislike for girls that only want to know gay boys for their gayness. Once again, personal experiences, but so many of my girl friends outside of my usual circle (the gay one orz) tell me how jealous they are because they want a gay best friend to go shopping with them, and do their nails, and to check out boys with. Everything in my original comment was from personal experiences. I don't have any IRL fandom friends, but online girls have said the same thing to me. It just... !#$% yeah.

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
It's a guy. A guy who happens to be gay. I've never understood the fetish for them (outside, y'know, actual gay porn).

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently to a lot of girls they're a novelty to be treated as an accessory. It's all the rage to have one, haven't you heard?

Re: 57

[identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com 2008-03-19 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
No. No, I had not.

And now I really wish I hadn't.

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus. You might want to get help for your anger and bitterness issues.

Re: 57

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
My life is worse than an episode of the OC for drama and WTF twists. I think I'm entitled to being slightly peeved.

Mind you, at the end of the day I love it because at least it's not boring.

Re: 57 (not the OP)

(Anonymous) 2008-03-19 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
The thing that really pissed me off about that secret was the fucking assumption that all of us are fucking queens and twinks - I like cock, that doesn't mean I have to roll myself in fucking glitter. (She'd probably think I'm not fucking gay enough if she met me.) What the dumb bitch clearly wants is the camp equivalent of a yappy dog.

Jesus, people like that piss me off.