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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-01 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #3406 ]


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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-02 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That's very naive. It's not entirely untrue, but you're leaving out a lot of really important information, such as: rape against women is often very narrowly defined, female rape victims are often questioned in such a way as to try to pin the blame on them, women are physically less able to defend themselves from male rapists than vice-versa, and other factors. It's not as simple as you've outlined. Men and women face a different set of problems when it comes to rape, but it's not exclusively a male problem. That's just as silly as trying to claim men don't get raped at all.

Yes, most people see male-on-female rape as heinous...when it's a creeper jumping out of the bushes and pushing a gun up against a pure, innocent woman's head. Most rape doesn't look like that.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-02 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The naive one is you.
Male rape is ignored completely if it's not penetrative sex. It's often not even counted as rape if he doesn't have anything forcibly rammed up his ass. So it's even more narrowly defined. Male rape victims are questioned, yes, but of course they are, it's a normal procedure in crime of all kinds. Male rape victims are not even questioned in the first place because everyone just laughs in their faces and dismisses them without ever considering what they say is true. And where female victims might be less physically strong, female rapists usually use other means to put pressure on their victims. And male victims rarely fight back because that would automatically make them seem like the aggressor. Not to mention that most male victims don't even know they are being raped because they are taught that those things can't possibly happen to men (and yet it's not any less traumatic for them).

So yeah, I think the rape culture for men is much worse than the one for women (which I don't agree exists at all in western countries in the way it's defined).

And no, most people don't just think the stereotypical rapist from the bushes is evil, but sure, believe what you want.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-03 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sooo bringing up specific problems men face when it comes to rape doesn't erase the problem women face. Why are you so determined to throw women under the bus?

(Anonymous) 2016-05-04 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Nobody was doing that. Saying that men are vilified and women aren't for the same actions isn't throwing women under the bus. It's saying that we need to handle rapists the same no matter who they are.

Plus, male victims aren't believed. They're mocked, they're derided, they're told they should have liked it, they're told they aren't real men, they're even arrested over the belief that they had to be the rapist no matter what other evidence exists.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-04 12:58 pm (UTC)(link)
It's saying that we need to handle rapists the same no matter who they are.

...but you (or AIRT if not you) were literally saying women don't face problems with rape culture. That's flat-out wrong and hurts women to say so. Now you're trying to tell me they should be treated with equal consideration?