[ SECRET POST #3408 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3408 ⌋

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Comments

[sadiesockmonkey]

For me, my issues with Frozen come from 3 places:
Backlash. The critics were raving about it, calling it the best Disney movie since The Lion King (which has never been one of my top favorite Disney movies to begin with, so.) Not to mention, that praise for it really sticks in my craw because there have been so many Disney movies released since 1994 that I genuinely love. (My favorite, even. Tangled is my favorite, so already I was on edge.)

My college roommate at the time thought (still thinks, I'm pretty sure) that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and as she is also a huge Disney fan, that was offputting. The fact that she dismissed a lot of my valid criticisms out of hand because I "don't have a sister" and so maybe I don't really "get it" didn't help.

And finally: She's right. I don't have a sister. But I do have two older brothers, and like Anna, there was once upon a time where we had a large fight in which he froze me out. We were living in the same house together at the time and he did not speak to me for months. He didn't start speaking to me again until after he'd moved out. That hurt. And it's what's portrayed in the film. And yet, with my personal experience, I was angry. I was sad, but I was also furious, and at no point in the film do they portray Anna as being angry with Elsa for all of the emotional turmoil & neglect that she's put her through for the past 15 years, and since it's unrealistic, it makes me angry & makes me think it's not a very well written film. I have the soundtrack, and the song "Life's Too Short" that was replaced in the final film by "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)"? If that had been the film used for that confrontation scene, I'd have liked the film so much more than I did.

In the end...I think Frozen is okay. I think it's enjoyable, I like the cast, the music's great...but the hype kills it for me and the fact that I hate, hate, hate Elsa as a character kills it for me. THAT'S why I'm more critical of Frozen than I am of other Disney films.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, I always thought I didn't understand the Anna/ Elsa relationship because I'm an only child. Had someone treated me like Elsa did Anna-- refusing to interact with me in any way and essentially keeping me in solitary confinement for YEARS with no explanation-- I wouldn't be risking my life to save her. I chalked Anna's actions up to assuming she's just a better person than I am and I don't understand the sibling bond, so hearing your perspective was very interesting.

Finding out that someone had a semi-decent reason for treating you like shit doesn't make the pain of being treated like shit go away. I wish the movie had explored that more.

TL;DR: I would be so there for angry!Anna.

[(Anonymous)]

Anna did get angry, though. That's literally what spurred everything on. But, you know, the moment someone spreads ice over the floor on accident, you're probably going to get pretty fast why they froze out everyone.

[(Anonymous)]

Not...really?

Anna was angry for exactly four lines of dialogue, and half of it seems born from being told she can't marry a man she just met.

Compare that initial 'anger' to when Hans suggests that maybe it's not safe for her to go & confront Elsa, and her response is "Elsa would never hurt me." which...doesn't really take into account the ways Elsa already has hurt her? Emotionally? With 15 years of abandonment? I mean, ffs, Elsa couldn't even come out of her room and comfort her when their parents died.

Idk. I'm just telling you how I feel, and that initial scene with Anna demanding answers for why Elsa's always shut her out compounded with every scene afterwards where she's nothing but positive & upbeat & determined that they can fix this together & Anna reassuring Elsa that Anna's not afraid anymore, and finally, ANNA being the one to make the sacrifice and act of true love to save her own damn life...it doesn't work for me. Those four lines of confrontational, angry dialogue, wherein the only answer she actually gets are the spikes of ice Elsa sends flying across the floor in Anna's direction don't work for me.

15 years of emotional abandonment distilled into an almost constant stream of positivity and positive regard for a damn near stranger you just happen to share DNA with juxtaposed with four lines of dialogue chastising Elsa for shutting people out, demanding to know why Elsa always shuts HER out, etc...it's not balanced well, it's not realistic, and ultimately, it's a pretty dissatisfying movie.