[ SECRET POST #3408 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3408 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

10. http://i.imgur.com/2LiCPoj.png

[(Anonymous)]

You don't get points for shooting at stuff that's easier to hit. Like this is the highest grossing animated film ever.

No one wants to talk about how Big Hero 6 has 6 characters and only uses 2.

[ketita]

lol, I had so many issues with Big Hero 6, and yes, the pointlessness of most of the cast was one of them.
Also, plotholes everywhere.

[(Anonymous)]

Every Disney film seems to get either cut to shreds or ignored (aka "Treasure Planet") so I'm not sure I can agree with this statement.

That said, I love Frozen. I loved it from the first time I saw it and I still love after a million times of re-watching thanks to nieces and nephews.

[(Anonymous)]

Probably because it was a huge hit, so lots of people have seen it, so naturally it's going to get a larger share of, well, everything really.

[eleganceliberty]

Just like any Disney movie: it's low-hanging fruit.

I suspect that in a few months to a year, people will be the same towards Zootopia (despite the fact that, IMHO, Zootopia had a lot more heft to it, message-wise) once the dust settles for that as well. I saw Frozen and thought it was horribly mediocre with a lot of flaws, but I don't get the raging, froth-at-the-mouth hate boners that people get for it whenever the subject comes up, either.

The oversaturation of Frozen in pop culture and merchandising probably didn't/doesn't help, either. On a side note, I remember recently, being in a Target, and an Elsa doll randomly set off with 'Let It Go', and a 5-6 year old girl behind me audibly groaned out loud. Her mom asked "Are you sick of that now?" with a laugh.

[iceyred]

Some people like to ruin things for others, so they talk about how those things 'suck.'

Deuces in the air, OP. If you DGAF about those people then life will good.

[(Anonymous)]

It's cool to dislike popular things.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of my friends hate Frozen with like a huge passion and they've never even seen it lol.

I like it honestly, but I get why other people wouldn't.
I do think coming up with obviously fake bullshit reasons on why it's "bad" ("it's offensive to sami culture!!!") is pretty annoying though and I'm glad that dumb trend has finally died.

[(Anonymous)]

Hype backlash

I don't know... I saw Frozen and liked it in a "that was a cute movie" kind of way. I didn't think it was anything particularly special or feel any desire to see it again.

I also teach high school. That year I had a class that was predominantly sixteen year old boys. And they were the stereotypical sixteen year old boys who were obsessed with football, hunting, fishing, four wheeling, belching, and farting.

And Frozen. Not a single class period went by without them bursting into "Let it Go", sighing over Anna and Kristoff, discussing Elsa's powers, or retelling Olaf's jokes. I've never seen anything like it.

I don't understand what it is, but I really do think there's something special about Frozen.

[diet_poison]

Honestly? Backlash to popularity.

No it wasn't the BEST MOVIE EVAR, but it's a good flick. And certain areas of the internet love to shit on stuff that gets big.

[rivulet027]

It was one of the two things that made my niece comfortable with becoming a big sister so I've got some love for it.

[kallanda_lee]

I think it's fun, I love the sister/sister relationship and I actually like "Let it Go" and Idina Menzel, so there.

[nightscale]

I never got the frothing hate over it either, it's not the greatest movie ever but it wasn't awful either, just fun. But the internet pretty much has a permanent hate-boner for anything that gets popular.

[bigpaw]

Personally I love Frozen, the first time I saw it in theaters I teared up at Elsa's little solo during 'The First Time in Forever.' I just really connected with her, her mannerisms, body language, expressions, I really connected to her and really appreciated her!

That said, I totally get a lot of the hype backlash. I really loved Let It Go but I still cringe a little when I hear it now, just from it being sooo overdone. But it still bugs me so much how it gets soo much hate for issues that a lot of movies have! Like female sameface and too many white people? Definitely not unique to Frozen. I think a lot of the fandom spaces I used to lurk really leapt on Frozen as the Bad disney movie, and it took the brunt of the blame and anger for a lot of issues in the animation genre in general. Kinda bums me out.

[(Anonymous)]

I automatically assume Frozen haters are just trying desperately to be edgy contrarions tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

It was annoying as hell, visibly half-assed, and just about everything interesting of the original concept was stripped away because God forbid the finished product might not appeal to males.

A lot of people were legitimately annoyed, and fans who saw, "Ugh, shut up already," and reworked that into hate-bashing-what have you made shit more annoying.

You've got your box office numbers and exuberance of merchandise so I don't see why fans have to keep this dreck alive.

[ibbity]

Imo, it's because Frozen made a giant splash and is still a huge hit and there weren't any really serious ideological reasons to hate it. So, the people who feel the need to hate anything that gets huge and popular, on the basis that everything that gets that popular must have something problematic in there to appeal to all the PLEBS who DON'T GET IT and NEED TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES, spent so much time and energy looking for things to hate that they are still coming up with new ones, even if they boil down to "Others like thing that I don't like and that is NOT ALLOWED."

[(Anonymous)]

Because it's new. Most Disney movies escape harsh criticism due to nostalgia. Keep in mind that it's not children writing the angry reviews of Frozen; it's adults.

Without nostalgia, many Disney movies just aren't that great. Of course, this is just my opinion. I only saw a few movies as a child and I loved them. I watched the rest as an adult and was disappointed.

Also, harsh reviews are a recent trend and most reviewers go for the new movies.

[(Anonymous)]

Crazy how sometimes I like a movie and sometimes I don't.

[sadiesockmonkey]

For me, my issues with Frozen come from 3 places:
Backlash. The critics were raving about it, calling it the best Disney movie since The Lion King (which has never been one of my top favorite Disney movies to begin with, so.) Not to mention, that praise for it really sticks in my craw because there have been so many Disney movies released since 1994 that I genuinely love. (My favorite, even. Tangled is my favorite, so already I was on edge.)

My college roommate at the time thought (still thinks, I'm pretty sure) that it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, and as she is also a huge Disney fan, that was offputting. The fact that she dismissed a lot of my valid criticisms out of hand because I "don't have a sister" and so maybe I don't really "get it" didn't help.

And finally: She's right. I don't have a sister. But I do have two older brothers, and like Anna, there was once upon a time where we had a large fight in which he froze me out. We were living in the same house together at the time and he did not speak to me for months. He didn't start speaking to me again until after he'd moved out. That hurt. And it's what's portrayed in the film. And yet, with my personal experience, I was angry. I was sad, but I was also furious, and at no point in the film do they portray Anna as being angry with Elsa for all of the emotional turmoil & neglect that she's put her through for the past 15 years, and since it's unrealistic, it makes me angry & makes me think it's not a very well written film. I have the soundtrack, and the song "Life's Too Short" that was replaced in the final film by "For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)"? If that had been the film used for that confrontation scene, I'd have liked the film so much more than I did.

In the end...I think Frozen is okay. I think it's enjoyable, I like the cast, the music's great...but the hype kills it for me and the fact that I hate, hate, hate Elsa as a character kills it for me. THAT'S why I'm more critical of Frozen than I am of other Disney films.

[(Anonymous)]

because it was overrated and bland, yet fans on tumblr and irl acted as if it was god's gift to filmmaking- Elsa's song encapsulates depression soooooo well, look at the way character X blinked in this scene you can tell EXACTLY what they're feeling omg, Frozen is the ONLY Disney movie that doesn't care about romance, FEMINISM!!! the story barely existed, the chracters were boring and their world was not well fleshed out, it's a skippable straight-to-DVD quality Disney movie yet it's the one getting spinoffs and sequels and a Disney ride, simply because Disney was good at marketing it to fanatical little girls.

[(Anonymous)]

Bigger target = easy target

I liked it too. I don't give a fuck. I don't think it was OMG PERFECT but whatever

[caerbannog]

I really liked it too!

[(Anonymous)]

Because it is a female centered film in which the men were antagonists or secondary to the main plot.

20 years after my classes in analysis and critical thinking in media and it is still horrifying and incredibly wearying to see this exact thing crop up again and again.