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⌈ Secret Post #3414 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Like, I know this is a crazy opinion, but maybe men wouldn't have quite as many fucked up issues with toxic masculinity if it wasn't a dominant narrative that it's nearly impossible for men to sexually satisfy women

And don't let's pretend like that's something men invented, either. And if your argument is going to be that it's just true and men are all actually bad at sex, then I'm sorry to say but it seems to me that a certain neurosis is going to fall out of that.

But in any case.

[(Anonymous)]

LOL! This is not a real thing. When women say that they aren't being sexually satisfied by the men in their lives, it's not a vast feminist conspiracy to emasculate all men, everywhere. They're saying it because it's true and they'd very much like for that to change, surprise, surprise! Such opinions were, for a long time, kept on the down low because it was unacceptable for women to admit they had sexual desires because if they admitted that, they were sluts. Even now there's a strong belief that only men feel lust, women just... I dunno... wait around till a dick comes along, then they go with the flow? Ahahaha.

If men are neurotic about this (and that's a big "if", because I'm not seeing this trend of neurosis), it's because it goes against the "dominant narrative" that real men get off and if women don't it's because there's something wrong with the women... like maybe they're just lying about not having orgasms to spite the menfolk.

[(Anonymous)]

Men did invent it though, the same way they invented the bumbling dad stereotype. The bumbling dad is dumb and just messes chores up! (But he also gets away with not having to clean house because "he'll just mess it up") The "women's anatomy is boggling and impossible to pleasure!" stereotype serves the same function, that is, to let women know ahead of time that men are unwilling to learn how to please them, and they shouldn't expect to orgasm during sex. It doesn't benefit women in the least. It does however, benefit half-assed men, men who don't care if other men develop neuroses because of it.

[lb_lee]

See, that doesn't actually work, because you make it sound like toxic masculinity is primarily a hetero sex thing. Trust me, I've seen PLEEEEENTY of it in my fellow gay men too.

Also... really dude, why would women as a class invent a narrative that they're sexually unsatisfied to just hurt men? That seems... kinda stupid and self-centered. If I say I'm sexually unsatisfied, I MEAN I'M SEXUALLY UNSATISFIED. It's not some magic gotcha game, it's not even necessarily ABOUT MY PARTNER. (I might have a migraine, or have had an episode, or any number of reasons.)

And if someone can't take criticism in the bedroom without thinking about it solely in how it affects THEM, I don't want to be having sex with them. (And it goes both ways--I might ask bf not to bite so hard, he gets to tell me to bite harder, and so on and so forth.)

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem lies more in that sex has so long been considered a "need" of men or a "right" of men - sexual love is part of Maslow's hierarchy in the physiological category - that is, it's seen as on par with food and shelter.

Sex is not necessary for development, safety, nourishment, or social connection. In this day and age, it's not even necessary for creating life. It's a voluntary activity.

Historically, and even currently in a lot of countries women must marry a man chosen by their father and be raped repeatedly until death. Let's not sugarcoat it.
Let's not pretend either that the western world is free of this attitude that women serve a purpose as sexual objects.

I think this sums up my feelings pretty well:

“It is understandable that the perspectives of men and women on safety are so different--men and women live in different worlds...at core, men are afraid women will laugh at them, while at core, women are afraid men will kill them.”
― Gavin de Becker, The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence

Yep. People write books for women about how to protect themselves from men. Men's books on sexuality are about how to pick up women and how to perform better in bed.

Your insecurities are not all that important to us on a larger scale. We got other shit to worry about.

[chardmonster]

I'm sorry she didn't fake it.

[dancingmouse]

It's possible to please a woman, you just need a little patience and time. You just can't stick it in and expect her to totally get off on it.

If men took the time to properly learn how ladies and their parts work, then they'd have no reason to freak out about not being able to please them.