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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-10 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #3415 ]


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Re: Professional atheists

(Anonymous) 2016-05-10 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
First off, I've seen Dawkins advocate mocking religious people, which I don't see any reason to do unless they're shoving their religion down my throat or using it to oppress people or to excuse harmful behavior. If someone can respect my beliefs, and isn't using their beliefs to hurt people, I'll respect their beliefs.

I don't consider myself a "militant atheist" a la Dawkins, but I disagree with this. I do NOT owe any religious beliefs respect, and I feel religion can and should be criticized. Obviously that doesn't mean randomly going up to someone and freaking out on them, but I have zero reason to humor or respect Bronze Age mythology that has systematically been used to cause oppression, fear, and the denial of science. I don't owe beliefs respect. I can respect people, not I will not "respect" religion.
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Re: Professional atheists

[personal profile] sarillia 2016-05-10 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I almost said something about that. I don't need people to respect my beliefs. They're allowed to find my beliefs silly and nonsensical and say so. But maybe I have a different idea of what respect means here than other people.
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Re: Professional atheists

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-11 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
You sound like a militant atheist to me, tbh.

What do you mean when you say "respect" in this context?

Re: Professional atheists

(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
lol okay in that case I'm happy to be one.

Do you respect Scientology? Cults (and religions) that advocate girls thirteen or younger being married to older men? Beliefs that advocate killing gay people, or people who don't follow the same religion?

If you answer yes to everything, then I don't know what to tell you. If you say no, then you'll understand what I mean. I have every right to say a religion's beliefs are fucking stupid and no, I don't think I should bend over backwards to ~respects~ beliefs I find offensive, backwards or nonsensical.
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Re: Professional atheists

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-11 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
So you are talking about criticizing organized religions and their specific tenants you don't like. Ok. I can get behind that.

You definitely gave me a vibe of mocking and looking down on individual people who are religious in your previous comment. If I misread that, then, good, I'm glad to be wrong about that :)