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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-10 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #3415 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3415 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
You know, people always talk about how traumatizing that book was, but it always seemed pretty normal to me. It's like, have you read animal fiction? Like, read some Jack London, man. They're always pretty brutal.

Or yeah, the Woodstock Saga by Michael Tod. That had like freaking squirrel incest. Then there was that book about deer... I used to read a lot of animal stories, and like, they have SO much more death than books about humans, I swear. Even Redwall has a lot of killing, I mean (though I wouldn't really count that one, since they're so anthropomorphized and even wear clothing and such. They're basically humans). I read Animal Farm when I was like 12, too. I think a lot of kids read that in middle school, don't they?

Watership Down just seems to be very in line with the sort of genre it's a part of. Maybe modern children's lit is really toned-down and censored or something? Idk, I think I was like 8 when I read it, and I thought it was awesome. Kids love gore and violence. Look at fairy tales. Then again, as a child I was all about reading the original stuff. The modern versions are boring by comparison...

(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's probably more traumatic as an animated film?

(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of older people only care about whether something is "dark" or not, and then declare it to be "traumatic." I hardly see any other comments about some media (like fairy tales - try to find someone talking about them, and not just focusing on which ones are "dark" and which versions are darker than others, and so on). I did not care about this kind of stuff when I was a kid. I just liked any good story that kept my interest, and it didn't matter if it was more "dark" or not dark enough, or whatever.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-05-11 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it seemed fine to me when I read it - i mean, animals die, it happens.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The animals are anthropomorphized. For all intents and purposes, you are reading about people.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-05-11 01:27 pm (UTC)(link)
No, i'm reading about animals. You might be reading about people, but i was not. A rabbit is snatched by a fox and they say 'poor thing' and she's basically forgotten by the end of the chapter.

Not people.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
you can experience it however you like, I suppose, but it's absolutely stupid to make a "LOL They're animals they always die why people so upset!" argument when we're talking about speaking, thinking, intelligent characters. you're wrong to judge either way, and frankly I think it's a little weird that you're unable to make that connect yourself.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2016-05-11 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Why yes, I can. The person I was replying to said it was no big to them. Someone up-thread said the animals were non-anthro. Not sure what your childhood trauma is (Watership Down, perhaps?) but you seem to be reeeeeally overreacting to my opinion/take on the book, and singling me out for your rather hysterical comment.

Not sure why, unless you're the anon who seems to *live* to find Hitler-like moral fault with my every remark.

But, whatever. You do you. Bye bye.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-11 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, i'm pretty sure the appeal of that genre is the fact that it's generally more dangerous to be a rabbit, horse, wolf than being a human. I certainly don't need to be worry about getting shot by a farmer unless I've really upset him.