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⌈ Secret Post #3418 ⌋

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I didn't think they could top Winter Soldier, but they did. I also didn't know if that many characters in a movie would work out, but The Russos know what they are doing (can't wait to see Avengers 3 now).

I loved 99% of this movie.

Antman & Spiderman: I loved the comedy these two brought. All of the Giantman scenes were hilarious, my whole theater was cracking up. As an introduction to Spiderman, this was great. I love how he actually acts, looks, and sounds like a teenager. I can't wait to see more of him.

I never felt any of the characters were underused even smaller parts like Clint.

All the relationships between the characters was fantastic.

Bucky and Steve: Perfect portrayal of an intimate friendship. Regardless of what happened, Steve was always there on Bucky's side.

Bucky and Sam: Very fun bantering between them (the seat scene and 'I hate you' scene). It is basically what happens when your best friend from high school meets your best friend from college. Awkward and a bit of a rivalry.

Steve and Tony: I was amazed by how well this was done. This is how a breakdown between heroes should be. They each had their own (logical) reasons for choosing their sides. And the movie made you feel for each character, their motivations, and their relationships.

Plot stuff

I loved the introduction to T'Challa and his motivations. In true Marvel fashion, I was in love with him by the end of the movie. I am so glad he was able to let go of his anger and take Zemo in alive.

Helmut Zemo is probably my second favorite villain now. He was a sympathetic villain with clear goals. I loved that he understood that he was never going to be strong enough to take out the Avengers and would need them to take each other out.

Also, the twist at the ending with him killing the other Winter Soldiers? Fucking. Awesome. Not only did this show that he really wasn't out to take over the world, it ensured we didn't have a silly ending with Iron Man/Captain America teaming up to fight a group of baddies like usual. It was just the intimate battle between the three characters.

Steve breaking the others out of prison and (presumably) taking them to hide out in Wakanda until they are needed, was a great resolution. I assume that T'Challa was also considered sort of a criminal as well. Plus, the country should be strong enough to keep anyone away if need be.

And I like that Steve and Tony were able to tentatively repair their relationship.

Stuff I Didn't Like
I still don't like Vision's design. I don't know it is the coloring or how smooth he is, but it just looks weird. I am glad he goes around wearing sweater vests, though.

Sharon and Steve. I just don't get it. I really wish if they were going to hook them up, they'd at least show them spending time together. Sharon had not even revealed she was Peggy's niece until her funeral (so they can't have been spending time between movies). It just felt forced and I still think it is a bit gross considering how much Steve loved Peggy. And them kissing before the big battle felt way too much like when Peggy gave Steve his kiss before the big battle in TFA.

Though, if they are going to hook Steve up with anyone, she is the least annoying choice. I don't care about her at all so if they just erase her in later movies, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Better her than Natasha (best platonic m/f friendship ever) or Wanda (Steve is totally acting like her big brother).

The two things I was spoiled on
I was spoiled for two things on here (well three if you count Peggy's death but I figured everyone knew that was going to happen).

The first was that a black character died. I spent the whole movie thinking Rhodey or Falcon was going to be killed but it never happened. Afterwards, I realized they were probably talking about T'Challa's dad?

Bucky being frozen again. I was really worried about this but in the end if was okay. He was frozen on his own terms and he is in a safe place with people who care about him. And they are most likely going to bring him back in Avengers 3 with a shiny new arm. :D

Other shit
I really want to see some fic between Steve/Bucky/T'Challa. So...hopefully writers can give me some of that.

Someone said this movie sunk one of the popular slash ships in the fandom. I have no idea who they mean. I guess Tony/Steve but I can see a lot of makeup fanfics coming from this.

Glad Crossbones wasn't around long. Though my sister was confused by who he was. She briefly thought it was Punisher. Also, him taking off his mask to reveal ANOTHER MASK was great.

The fights scenes were fantastic.

Clint caring so much about Wanda was great.

I love that they brought back the Winter Soldier theme a couple times in the movie because it was my favorite track from TWS.

That bicep scene. ლ(´ڡ`ლ) Some of which can be seen in this B-Roll footage from the filming https://youtu.be/bOprrLuIHGE

I stopped rather shortly after Rhodey was shot out of the sky (I did get a little sad at Falcon's "...I'm sorry." and Tony blasting him away) and skipped to the end, so I thought he died until I got online.

I didn't think he died but I had no idea who shot him because a waitress was at my seat at the time and I missed it. : /

Falcon didn't do it, the pink dude did, he was just near by.

Yeah, I had to ask Reddit to clarify for me. :P

I think Bucky's frozen again so he can be in the Black Panther movie (bc god knows they need a white man, but also bc it would ground the BP movie in established MCU-ism).

Eh. I think they will kill Captain America in the Avengers 3 and pull Bucky out to be the new Captain America. And then Cap will come back in Avengers 4 with the help of the infinity gauntlet.

Porque no los todos?

Slash I loved how...protective? T'Challa got of Bucky at the very end. I think it's a really interesting dynamic tbh

To be honest, Bucky in Black Panther would make me go see it in theaters. I think there's a lot of interesting stuff to do with the dynamic, and I think that T'Challa's ability to forgive would be good for Bucky's state of mind.

Also it would be rad if Bucky got like, actual lines.

Bucky had more lines than most of the main people actually. Though, Spiderman had more lines than him and significantly less screen time.

eta: I lied. They had the same amount of lines.

Edited 2016-05-13 23:48 (UTC)

It's weird, because I don't *remember* him saying much, whereas Spidey seemed to be running his mouth nonstop. Huh. Guess I need to rewatch.

eta: maybe because Bucky was onscreen more than Spidey, so if you calculate lines in relation to screentime, it comes out less.

Edited 2016-05-13 23:53 (UTC)

Someone on Reddit did the math.

Somebody should do a lines vs. minutes on screen breakdown.

Someone probably will when the movie comes out on DVD.

I think the problem is that much of what he said was functional, not personal, so it seems like he did not say so much.

Excellent point. Bucky definitely needed to spend a LOT more time sharing his feelings with us.

Preferably while porting sad eyes.

Yes, that part is crucial.

It must be weird to be the ostensible star of a film (or one of them) and be on screen a LOT but only actually say like ten sentences.

See also: Mad Max Fury Road

Yeah, but that's kind of par the course for Mad Max. Which is some kind of excuse XD

But.

Tom Hardy doesn't need to speak.

Or maybe he shouldn't. Evidence: The Dark Knight Rises.

I agree with most of this. I don't actually think they topped Winter Soldier. That is still my favorite MCU movie. But it is a very clsoe second.

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