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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-13 06:50 pm

[ SECRET POST #3418 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Only if they know how the world works.

But it's less of a fear that we will be raped for being a woman, although we are at a significant risk of that, it's more about the fact that the world will attack us for being raped. That no-one will believe us, that police will interrogate us, That our families will hate us, and every man around us will call us liars. The rape is only the start if the suffering for women in our society.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
How can you live your life like that though? Like... I'm a woman and I've never gone out my door every morning thinking that something terrible would happen to me and I'd be punished for it.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-13 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
You do know that women have different experiences and veiwpoints then you right.

There's tons of factors that could lead someone to think that way, our shitty and biased society and media sure isn't helping.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I do know that, I'm not disregarding the fact that OP might have had different experiences than me. I'm trying to understand if I'm an anomaly in the fact that I don't step out my door assuming someone is going to hurt me, or if that sentiment is just more prevalent on the internet than it is in my social circle.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
You're not an anomaly. I also don't feel constantly afraid and the only thing that's happened to me in my almost 30 years is my butt got squeezed at a concert once.

A lot of women do have shit happen to them. But I think we have been creating a culture of fear that goes hand-in-hand with rape culture. It gets into women's heads and controls what we do and where we go, and it's hard to question it because it grew out of a really good, vital place.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
People live their lives in all kinds of ways. I wish people would stop with the "you can't LIVE" when encountering an opinion they don't agree with.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I understand that, but is living a life of constant fear to the point where a book aggravates your anxiety really living? I'm not saying people can't (and don't) have different opinions or experiences, that would be ridiculous, it just seems counterproductive to enjoying life to worry about something that hasn't happened.

Not saying don't take precautions to avoid potential hazards, but constant fear that EVERYTHING might kill you or EVERYONE might hurt you can't be a healthy way to live.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
This. There's taking reasonable precautions and then there's being paranoid. The first is fine, the second one isn't healthy.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
What you don't seem to be getting is that OP having an anxiety disorder in the first place is what causes her overwhelming fear, not the other way around. No, most women don't go around with a crippling fear of being raped, but most women don't have a mental illness that exacerbates fear and sress response and has decided to latch onto that particular threat factor.

Most women who cite a fear of being raped as a motivator for behaviour aren't living in permanent dread of it. They're, as you say, taking precautions - not drinking anything that's been left unattended, staying in well-lit areas of they're out alone at night, listening to their instincts if a man or a group of men unnerves them for whatever reason, possibly taking self defense courses or carrying pepper spray. That they can, if asked, draw a clear line back to the possibility of rape and say "this is why" doesn't mean they're living in constant terror, it just means that they're aware of the impetus behind their habits.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-14 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think everybody basically agrees with this, but for some people it is ACTUALLY REALLY HARD to not be anxious about stuff because they actually have clinical anxiety. Please understand that.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
For me, it's not that I necessarily expect terrible things to happen when I'm just going about my usual routine. But I place limitations on myself constantly, often without even realizing that I'm doing it.

As one example: a male friend told me that on one warm summer night he decided to sleep on the public beach, and I was shocked that that was something a person could just do. And then five seconds later it clicked why he was comfortable making that choice, while I wouldn't even dream of it. Most likely I'd be perfectly safe if I slept on the beach, but if I were raped in those circumstances, 90+% of people would say it was my fault for putting myself in that situation in the first place.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
This. But try telling that to anon above who no doubt thinks your male friend would have equally been at risk.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
I think I'm the above anon you're talking about (the one who said that male rape victims are mocked and disbelieved, right?) and honestly your disregard for male victims is just disgusting. Right now YOU'RE making them the butt of jokes by acting like so much as mentioning them is a punchline.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
You realize if the male friend were raped (which ayrt doesn't suggest would be any less impossible), chances are 90+% likely he wouldn't even feel able to speak up about it due to not being believed or outright mocked for it. Largely because of attitudes like yours.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
But that isn't a societal problem like the abuse female survivors face.

The reason that just isn't even an issue to be discussed here is because that mockery is not gender based. It's men doing it to other men. Where as the disbelief and abuse female survivors face is from men and the society they built and run, it's an extention of men attacking women, which I think we can all agree is a societal problem. Thats why a woman being mocked and disbelieved is a problem and attitudes like AYRT is not the same thing.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-15 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
You realize that by saying that men built and run society you're saying that women had and continue to have no part in that, right?

Though you seem to live in a completely different society, one where only men both rape and find rape to be something to be ignored or laughed at. And that's sure not the society I live in. You think women aren't disbelieved and abused by other women? You think men aren't mocked by women? You're right that it isn't gender based--but then you go on to gender it!

What the heck does AYRT mean and why do you keep calling me that?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-15 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT = anon you replied to. they're not calling you that, they're using it to clarify who they're talking about

(Anonymous) 2016-05-14 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
He would have been equally at risk - which is to say, not at a very great risk, because the big bad rapist stranger is largely a myth - the vast majority of rape victims don't just get raped by a random guy but by people they know.