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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-15 04:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #3420 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-05-16 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
you know what? i had a ginger friend who was made fun of a lot during school. however, being made fun of doesn't mean you face systematic discrimination. lots of people think ace people are weirdos for not wanting sex. i'm not denying that. however, people thinking you're kind of weird isn't the same thing as fearing for your life, fearing losing your job, and fearing being kicked out of your house which is a fear many lgbt kids face.

This is a time when people feel it's totally okay to say extremely judgmental, dismissive, insensitive, and ignorant things like, "literally no one gives a fuck about aroace people," and make insulting generalizations about us, like, "aroace people make dumbass comments." Do you not see how - for lack of a better term - acephobic that is? And to argue that ace/aro people don't need more representation, when so many people think it's completely okay to insult, dismiss, disavow, and otherwise belittle ace/aro people? That's just...blind, close-minded, and wrong.

I wasn't being dismissive and judgmental when I said that, even though I purposely phrased it in a mean way. I'm just stating what I see is a fact. No one gives a fuck about aroace people, and, as a lesbian, I would kill for that. I would kill to not have to hear about politicians complaining about "the homosexual" or hear people around me talking about "gross dykes."

People all around the world find same gender attraction disgusting to the point where they want to kill gay people, create legislation that denies their rights, and spread propaganda about us. This is a systematic problem. As for aroace people, people just find them kind of weird or prude-ish. If your worst problem is people thinking you're odd for not wanting to fuck people, then you really don't have it too bad.

In your first comment, you said that you didn't see why gay representation was more important than aroace representation. Of course I would be annoyed. Gay representation is IMMENSELY more important than aroace representation. If people start getting murdered for not wanting to have sex or relationships with people, then hit me up, I guess, but, until then, lgbt representation is way more important.

Would aroace representation be good? Sure. But there's no systematic "acephobia" that you speak of. The fact that I made a blanket statement about aroace people is comparable to me generalizing jocks. Kinda douchey? Sure. All that harmful? Nah, not really.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-16 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
But there's no systematic "acephobia" that you speak of. The fact that I made a blanket statement about aroace people is comparable to me generalizing jocks. Kinda douchey? Sure. All that harmful? Nah, not really.

I don't have the energy to address your comment when this is where you're coming from. There will be no seeing eye to eye for us, if this is your viewpoint on aro/ace people and society. If your perspective were accurate, then I could discuss this with you and even agree with you. But it's not accurate - not for me, and not for the majority of other ace people I know in real life, or for many of the ace people I've known online. It's coming from a place of ignorance. I cannot possible know what your experience has been as a gay person. However, I respect your experience and do not feel the need to pass my own personal judgement on what it has or hasn't been. You do not give me that same respect. Therefore, we can't really have much to say to each other that won't go hopelessly amiss.