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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-16 05:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #3421 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3421 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Selena Gomez/Orlando Bloom]


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[Fullmetal Alchemist]


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[Vocaloid, Hatsune Miku]


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[The Great British Bake Off]


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[Anne of Green Gables/Anne of Avonlea]


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[Pokémon Sun and Moon]


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[iZombie]


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[Etrian Odyssey]
















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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Re: Confession Thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-17 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry some of us have scruples. And it's really rich of you to claim I just want to police people and take them down, when you're doing the same thing.
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Re: Confession Thread

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-05-17 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
It's all a matter of which scruples you have. I'm a Utilitarian, so I'm against reducing total happiness. Stealing makes the thief happy and the victim unhappy, so I have to jump through a lot of hoops to argue that stealing is wrong. I've never come up with a a Utilitarian argument for why Internet piracy is directly wrong (though I can argue that it's immoral to fund pirates through advertising revenue.)
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Re: Confession Thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-17 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Er? I am? How?

I don't even have strong feelings about pirating one way or the other, and I see both sides to that argument; I'm just saying that the "stop doing it because it's wrong because I say so" argument holds no weight to me and strikes me as rather self-righteous. If you can't prove that it actually hurts anyone, then why do you care whether other people do it? Again, it's the approach.
Edited 2016-05-17 12:50 (UTC)

Re: Confession Thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-17 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
But it does hurt someone. I don't see how you can even argue that it doesn't. Someone pirating something instead of paying for it means that the creator isn't getting that money for their creation. Okay, so you can argue that it's not a big deal if one person does it, but if a bunch of people use that as their justification for pirating, that's a lot of money that's being lost there. And that isn't right. Creators deserve to be compensated for their work unless they specifically choose to make it available for free.
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Re: Confession Thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-17 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone pirating something instead of paying for it means that the creator isn't getting that money for their creation.

...if this is your argument you're missing the entire point of what I'm saying. I UNDERSTAND this argument.

My initial response to the anon on this thread who said they took umbrage with pirating was because that anon based their entire argument on their personal disdain for people doing a thing they didn't like, NOT on the fact that pirating hurts creators. It's not "you have to pay for this so the creator is compensated"; it's "you have to pay for this because I am paying for it and if I have to do it, so do you". And if the former is what AIRT (you? not sure) actually meant, then it was worded very poorly.

ETA: just noticed I wrote "pegged" instead of "paid" up there in my initial response. Sorry if that caused any confusion. (and wow that is a really bad typo)
Edited 2016-05-17 19:53 (UTC)

Re: Confession Thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-17 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, please. From the beginning, you just decided that this is all about people doing a thing I don't like, and I want to police their fun, which is something I never said.

Because, yeah, I don't like when people pirate, and their weak-ass justifications is what I was focusing on. But why don't I like when people pirate? Because it hurts creators. But that should be obvious. Pardon the fuck out of me for not forseeing weird-ass tangents you'd take.
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Re: Confession Thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-18 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
No, I responded based on what I saw. It's not my fault you decided to fixate on your judginess and not on your reasons for disliking the thing you don't approve of.

Re: Confession Thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-17 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Because you're not at all trying to police my comments and take me down a peg right here. Riiiight.
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Re: Confession Thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-18 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I wasn't specifically going after you with an "oh you suck so much blah blah" approach, I was commenting on the attitude you took. And sometimes people have opinions on the things you say? the horror.