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⌈ Secret Post #3422 ⌋

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Comments

Re: controversial opinions thread

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think he's a hack, I think he's a great director overall and an awesome person, but his stuff has gotten kind of formulaic. Firefly was nearly flawless but I haven't quite loved anything else he's done. Some is pretty good but a lot of it just feels kind of off.

Re: controversial opinions thread

[(Anonymous)]

But but but CONFEDERATES!!!! /sarcasm

Re: controversial opinions thread

[(Anonymous)]

There is no getting around it, the Confederacy comes with a lot of cultural baggage whether you want it to or not. Whedon should have been more aware of that. If he'd been half the showrunner and writer he's been claimed to be then he would have been. Space Western after a Civil War, with the losers using the rural South's tropes was always going to run into that. He perhaps ought to have worked on that a bit more before going forward with it. Maybe dropped the Civil War angle, or made it clear that the losers in this case were the substitute for the North rather than the South. As it stands it comes across as just whitewashing away all the faults of the Confederacy in order to use the tropes as set dressing, and that is not okay. It wasn't okay in 2002 and it is less okay now.

Re: controversial opinions thread

[(Anonymous)]

Firefly ignored a huge amount of problematic material when it decided to be post Civil War in Space, and had the supposed heroes be rebs. Unapologetic rebs at that, and to have the alliance be the bad guys. Not to mention all the Chinese cultural appropriation without a single Chinese main cast member. It was about as bad as you could get, it just gets a free pass because it was a Whedon show and we all wanted to beat Fox up for its early cancellations policy. Taken on its own merits Firefly is a huge mess that deserved its early pull from the schedules. That is without even getting into the lack of acting ability in its main star; a man that could do only quipping or scowling.

Re: controversial opinions thread

[crossy_woad]

>a man that could do only quipping or scowling

I admit that, as someone who never got into Firefly, this made me grin. :)

Re: controversial opinions thread

[(Anonymous)]

The only one which is a legitimate criticism is the lack of Chinese actors. I agree there should have been Chinese actors aboard the Serenity. But at the same time, the very concept was that China was an economic-political superpower and eventually everyone on every corner of the earth (or space) was taught Chinese. Chinese language and culture was projected, in the same way that English is in our world. That was the point.

But I lol at the "confederacy" criticism. Firefly literally is not about the Civil War. It takes place in the same world as ours, so the real Civil War has already happened, and it certainly isn't about black slavery since on of the two main characters who fought in the war on the crew is black. Firefly took two popular tropes: space cowboy, and rebellion against The Machine (both of which have been done in excess in the sci-fi genre).