[ SECRET POST #3422 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3422 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[crossy_woad]

Well....selling derivative work of copyrighted material for profit is sketchy but on a very different level than saying "Hey I drew this thing" if you didn't draw it.

The one makes you look like a jerk (claiming you drew something you didn't); the other can get you sued (depending on how big the company is, etc.).

Neither is a great life plan, is I guess what I'm saying?

There are certainly workarounds for derivative work. If it's a "parody." That always seemed like kind of a weird loophole. "Oh sure you can make money off this thing if you're mocking it, but not if you're using it in loving creative ways."

Stupid Starbucks here we come!

Copyright law needs some work. There have been a lot of cash grabs in the laws from big corporations. It's not all right.

But, if you're making money off something someone else owns, legally, you can face trouble, even if you don't agree w/ the laws.

And it's not right to claim responsibility for creating something you didn't (stealing art) even if you never face the law, and even if it's derivative. It's like buying an apple pie and saying you made it, except worse because at least you paid for the pie, and you didn't actually hurt the pie makers when you said that.

It's stealing a pie and showing off what a great baker you are; that's what it is, even for fanworks.

[(Anonymous)]

I interpreted the secret as being about fanartists complaining about people imitating a style or composition, not claiming someone else's actual work as their own. Like, if you are da Vinci and you painted The Last Supper as your totally rad Gospel of John fanart, and then you get mad because you're browsing DeviantArt and find someone posted a painting they did that imitates your style and uses the same composition, but recasts the biblical figures as Game of Thrones characters.

[crossy_woad]

That could be a thing, but I've never seen it. I'm not super active in art comms. I just see people on Tumblr saying "someone posted my art and claimed it as theirs, not cool" sort of thing. That's the only fan art theft I've heard of.

[blitzwing]

You've never been audience to style-theft wank? It's a treasure. A lot of times it's not even the artist who initiates it, it's their fans who decide to go dogpile some poor kid for drawing like their idol.

[(Anonymous)]

Heard about people doing this (not just on Tumblr, lay off on the "everything is tumblr's fault mentality) on everywhere from DA to YouTube. Really had no idea what was going on each time because it just seemed like Adult A draws like this and Kid A has a similiar style. But then Kid A's fans attack Adult A claiming they stole the style whereas Kids B, C, and D, claim Kid A is a thief and did it on purpose. Even worse if you have a style similar to the actual author.

Oh but for some reason it's fair game to copy Disney animators or something like that. Which is kinda confusing because why just them???

[(Anonymous)]

That's fne, but that's not what the words in the secret say.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds really hilarious. DaVinci views Deviantart...and discovers furry porn. Get on it, writers.

[(Anonymous)]

Already mentioned what you said but making money off of parody shouldn't be banned. That'd just be censorship.

And the pie analogy is very underwhemling tbh. What if you bought the pie at a market and the person was right in front of you when you said it? lol