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Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Feminists should treat the choice to wear the hijab exactly the same way they treat the choice to wear makeup, shave your legs, or be a stay-at-home mom. I see so many liberal feminists who say women who make the latter choices need to examine their reasons for making those choices and understand that their choices don't exist in a vacuum... in other words, without outright saying it, they pressure women to feel bad about making those choices. And then they turn around and unquestioningly praise women who wear the hijab because suddenly the only thing that matters is that they're choosing for themselves and all their "hint hint nudge vacuum examine" passive-aggressiveness flies out the window.

And of course I'm sure there are makeup-wearing, leg-shaving feminists who do it in the opposite direction, and they're wrong too (just not as common in the online places I go). Just, no matter what stance they take, people need to be more consistent on these issues.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

The double standard is really annoying.

Feminism will never address the fact that women judge other women, always have, always will. In fact, nowadays it's little more than an excuse to do so.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

You probably know you're generalizing, but I'm still going to say it: You're generalizing. You're also mischaracterizing.

Personally, I agree with the whole "it's important to examine the choices we make, nothing exists in a vacuum" thing quite strongly. And I absolutely feel that way about the choice to wear a hijab.

It's also not about pressuring women to feel bad about their choices. Some people must have had some serious passive aggressive BS heaped on them in their lives if they honestly hear "it's important to examine the choices we make, nothing exists in a vacuum" as "shame on you, you should feel bad."

I remind myself to examine my choices and my reasons for making them all the time. I wear makeup almost every day. I love fashion. I love shopping at Sephora. I find shaving my armpits annoying but I do it anyway. Those are all choices I consider. I don't shame myself. I've never felt ashamed of any of that stuff. I just feel it's important to be self aware and have a modicum of understanding of my environment and the ways it shapes me and I shape it.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

It's perfectly fine for you to decide what's important to YOU. It's not OK when you tell other people what should be important to THEM. At that point you've crossed a line into preaching.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if someone denies that "it's important to examine the choices we make, nothing exists in a vacuum" you may as well be denying some other incredibly obvious thing like the importance of documenting the things that happen in the world so that they can be remembered and learned from.

Examining the choices we make and how we fit into a greater context isn't something important for feminists to do. It's important for humans to do. Like, how is that even in dispute?

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

You aren't talking examining about choices in general. You're talking about examining the gender-specific or gender-related choices we make. And no, that is not obvious and not important to everyone. Nor should it be. I'm really tired of feminism telling me what should be important to me as a woman. Some of us just want to have fun with makeup and fashion etc. without analyzing the greater context.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

It's true! I have heard some seriously passive aggressive BS, from exactly those kinds of feminists on those issues I was talking about. I don't deny that it's important to examine your choices, but feminists who push that statement at other women always assume that we are stupid babies who haven't already examined our choices and need to be told to by you who know so much more. It's always disgustingly condescending.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

DA but I think anyone who leaps to take offence at something so basic and non-confrontational is probably a lost cause anyway.

Re: Related hijab opinion

[(Anonymous)]

But I don't object to any of those other choices either.

I mean, just in general, if someone is making a judgment which you think is erroneous in case A, but not making the same judgment in case B, it seems to me that the logical thing is to get them to correct their understanding of case A, not to extend the same faulty logic to case B. And yet, over and over again, I see people say the opposite: they don't mind if the person is wrong, as long as they're wrong fairly. It's stupid as hell.