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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-21 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3426 ]


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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm tired of some nonbinary people insisting that if you don't fit male/female stereotypes you're automatically nonbinary.
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-21 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Do NB people in particular say that? I just thought a lot of tumblrites said that kind of thing regardless

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Piggybacking on that, I hate the "gender is a social construct". Sounds like people are trying to argue that gender is equal to the stereotypes we have of men and women, which pisses me off.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who doesn't understand what gender could be other than a construct (since biological sex and gender are two different things) can you explain what else it is?

This is why I always get confused by things like genderqueer and non-binary. I mean, really I don't care what other people identify as, and everyone has the right to feel however they feel as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else, but if gender 'traits' are typically because of stereotyping, does not following socially stereotypically gender traits make you agender/non-binary/etc?
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-21 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Enh, I got two nonbinary sibs. One of them is femmy and likes pink and overalls and wearing zer hair in pigtails. The other is more bomber jackets and T-shirts. For one of them, gender is something they just wish would leave them the fuck alone; they don't understand why everyone cares so fucking much. For the other, ze just seems happiest with those pronouns; after a pronoun switch, ze was basically, "Okay, now I am happy."

I mean, I'm trans male but always feel like a total failure as being male, so you know. I've tried REALLY hard to be nonbinary but have totally failed at this endeavor. It seems like a weird kind of zen koan, the idea that maleness means literally NOTHING to me, but is still extremely important. (Plus I'm gay, so I'm SOLELY ATTRACTED to this meaningless descriptor! What the hell, brain!)

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
This. "Feminine" and "masculine" are designations that WE give to things. They don't mean that a particular behavior or trait is inherently male or female. A man who is nurturing and pacifistic is not somehow less male because of that, nor is a strong, aggressive woman any less female.
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] feotakahari 2016-05-21 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I think most people are some of one and some of the other, but if you're 90% male, you may not care about the rest. (And I've known some people who were 100% one gender.)

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't get NB people at all, society recognizes only two genders. sorry but them's the breaks.
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-05-22 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
That is such a bad argument. Society used to only recognizea lot of other stuff too before people forced it to change its perspective.