[ SECRET POST #3426 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3426 ⌋

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Comments

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

That's because transmisandry doesn't exist. I'm a trans guy. I know trans women. I see them fighting all sorts of transphobia and misogyny that specifically gets pinned to them as trans women.

Me? I might get misogyny from folks who don't see me as male... but that's specifically because they DON'T see me as male. I might face transphobia because I'm trans... but there's no specific bullshit I get for specifically being a trans GUY. There's only fallout from other stuff.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

Funnily enough I've seen a number of trans women claim that transmisogyny doesn't exist, and that it's all just an extension of transphobia and societies hatred of men who "aren't useful" to society. That it's not misogyny because in the mind of the aggressor, it's the hatred isn't targeted at a woman. Which falls under transphobia, and their willingness to do violence to a man.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

So you're not trans? Well LB_Lee is. Stop taking now.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

Enh, no, it's okay, I mean, I'm trans but I'm not a woman, so if there's actually some new line of argument going around that I don't know, I actually want to know about it so I can read up and research.

I am a little startled by the idea that a woman would argue hatred against them ISN'T misogyny purely because they aren't seen as women, though. That's... a cruelly self-destructive way of seeing it. I mean, I've had people treat me with heavy-duty classism because they saw me as fake poor (and simultaneously too poor), but that doesn't make it any less classist, you know?

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

Which trans women? I'm curious because I haven't encountered that argument before and would like to read up.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah if this is real, I'd quite like to know which rock these 'women' are hiding under too.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

Heh, I mean, I read some of the stuff of a genderqueer MRA, so it's not like it's impossible.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

Genderqueer MRA?

Isn't that like a Negro klan member, or a Jewish SS officer?

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

Yeah, girlwriteswhat is a self-identified genderqueer woman MRA. I don't pretend to speak for her, and she seems to mostly be Youtube anyway, so I don't know very much about her except I don't think I'd like her.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, shit i hate her. Seriously, fuck her to death with something rusty.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

I wouldn't want THAT! D:

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

We're talking about Karen Straughn, right? No, fuck her.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[lb_lee]

Yeah, it's her. What's her claim to fame? I'm afraid she's just a name to me--I'm familiar with AVFM and Paul Elam and Warren Farrell, but her not so much.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

"Women"?

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[(Anonymous)]

FFS! No, I'm not saying trans women don't count as women. I'm saying I don't believe they are trans women. They're straight men posing as transwomen.