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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-21 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #3426 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3426 ⌋

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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Funnily enough I've seen a number of trans women claim that transmisogyny doesn't exist, and that it's all just an extension of transphobia and societies hatred of men who "aren't useful" to society. That it's not misogyny because in the mind of the aggressor, it's the hatred isn't targeted at a woman. Which falls under transphobia, and their willingness to do violence to a man.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're not trans? Well LB_Lee is. Stop taking now.
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-21 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Enh, no, it's okay, I mean, I'm trans but I'm not a woman, so if there's actually some new line of argument going around that I don't know, I actually want to know about it so I can read up and research.

I am a little startled by the idea that a woman would argue hatred against them ISN'T misogyny purely because they aren't seen as women, though. That's... a cruelly self-destructive way of seeing it. I mean, I've had people treat me with heavy-duty classism because they saw me as fake poor (and simultaneously too poor), but that doesn't make it any less classist, you know?
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-21 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Which trans women? I'm curious because I haven't encountered that argument before and would like to read up.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah if this is real, I'd quite like to know which rock these 'women' are hiding under too.
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-21 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh, I mean, I read some of the stuff of a genderqueer MRA, so it's not like it's impossible.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Genderqueer MRA?

Isn't that like a Negro klan member, or a Jewish SS officer?
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Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-21 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, girlwriteswhat is a self-identified genderqueer woman MRA. I don't pretend to speak for her, and she seems to mostly be Youtube anyway, so I don't know very much about her except I don't think I'd like her.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, shit i hate her. Seriously, fuck her to death with something rusty.
lb_lee: Raige making a horrified face. (D:)

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't want THAT! D:

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
We're talking about Karen Straughn, right? No, fuck her.
lb_lee: M.D. making a shocked, confused face (serious thought)

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

[personal profile] lb_lee 2016-05-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's her. What's her claim to fame? I'm afraid she's just a name to me--I'm familiar with AVFM and Paul Elam and Warren Farrell, but her not so much.

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-21 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"Women"?

Re: gender/sexuality bullshit sub thread

(Anonymous) 2016-05-22 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
FFS! No, I'm not saying trans women don't count as women. I'm saying I don't believe they are trans women. They're straight men posing as transwomen.