[ SECRET POST #3428 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3428 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/E6NYowB.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

What is the scene from, and what is happening?

[(Anonymous)]

Google image search says Cate Blanchett in Richard II

Not sure where in the play we are - never read that particular play

[(Anonymous)]

Probably the abdication (which in reality was more like a usurpation but you had to make it look legit) scene. Richard II was not a popular king in general terms but in the play the part where he gives up his crown is symbolic of his downfall/etc.

[(Anonymous)]

anon from above that id'ed the play:

Thanks!

[(Anonymous)]

What is this bg pic, I love how it looks whatever it is!!! SHINY.

And yeah, I totally get it. The whole reason stories like that are sad is BECAUSE the character deserves it. The tragedy of their life being spent on doing terrible things and losing it all and leaving them with nothing, not the tragedy of "this poor guy had something bad happen to them" which is a totally different sort of tragedy.

[a_potato]

I don't love this trope as much as you do, but I can understand why you like it. There's a satisfaction in seeing a vile character ruined, and there's another, different sort of satisfaction in seeing them humanized enough for you to care about them. It's contradictory, but that's part of what makes it interesting.

[philstar22]

I enjoy this trope too. And I totally can feel bad for characters who still did it to themselves and deserve it.

[(Anonymous)]

I always feel bad for characters, period. I don't really like seeing corrupt people have their lives ruined because I just get really, really sad, and I know I'm not "supposed" to feel bad for them but I do. I really hate feeling bad for characters, especially when I know most people just go "lol serves them right!"

[purpleseas]

I love it, too. Poorly-written, one-note villains are definitely laughable to me, but seeing a smart, capable, three-dimensional person with great potential go down the wrong path and pay dearly for it can be devastating.

[(Anonymous)]

Depending on the level of wrongdoing I don't always think they "deserve" it. Then again a character has to be really irredeemable for me to think anyone deserves death or torture.

[(Anonymous)]

Late to the party, but oooh yeah -
There's the play by Molière called The School for Wives. Short version, it's about this total jackass who is so convinced that all women are faithless that he straight-up buys a child, has her raised by nuns, and then when she's old enough (old enough by 17th century standards, that is) he locks her up in his country estate so that she can only meet the people he wants her to meet, and only learn the things he wants her to learn.
As you can probably guess, things end badly for him: he's publicly humiliated, all his friends realise he's a cockwaffle, and the girl marries a guy her own age who she actually likes.
And... near the end, when he's really cracking up, he actually gets down on his knees and begs the girl to marry him. He pleads for her to return his affections, in any measure.
I really liked that scene.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds amazing.

[arcadiaego]

Well, if you're talking about that play in particular, there's quite a fandom on Tumblr who seem to have a pretty complex understanding of it?

Also damn I still wish I'd been able to see that production.

[(Anonymous)]

This is a great secret and I'ma let you finish - but Vaerys Targaryen had the best "shiny gold crown" downfall of all time!