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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-23 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #3428 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3428 ⌋

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Re: Beauty and the Beast Live Action Trailer

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-23 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Say what you will about Belle's character motivations (which aren't all that sexualized, I would say), she still gets her ballroom scene. It's big and glitzy and romantic. She still has her beauty played up, even though the narrative is supposedly telling us that looks don't matter. Visually, she gets a princess treatment that's pretty typical of Disney's usually beauty = Good routine.

Mulan's beauty/feminine sexuality moment on the other hand... is a huge goddamn disaster which starts with her being late and ends with her disgracing her family. It only gets less sexualized from there, since "boy" Mulan gets pretty heavily masculinized and stuck in a tunic or armour (i.e. drawn with much smaller eyes, minimized curves, smaller lips). You could go so far as to say that Mulan, at least visually, gets de-sexualized for the majority of the movie.

Not to say that the character motivations aren't important, but since it's a film I'd say the ways in which both characters are presented are just about as important as their personalities.

Re: Beauty and the Beast Live Action Trailer

(Anonymous) 2016-05-23 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to quibble, but you seem to be equating "feminine" with "sexual" and "masculine" with "non-sexual." Certainly those go together often--I'd agree that Mulan is visually de-sexualized for much of the movie! But there's really nothing sexual about a girl wearing a beautiful fancy dress and having a nice dance, and it's a little troubling to see that jump being made here.

Re: Beauty and the Beast Live Action Trailer

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2016-05-24 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so in general your point is correct. I'm not trying to say that automatically a feminine aesthetic is a sexual one. But insofar as Disney goes... it rather is. The problem lies with the stylistic image: huge eyes, exaggerated waist/hip ratio, ruby lips, etc. etc. In most cases (I can think of a scant few characters where this doesn't apply) Disney females are purposefully drawn to be as appealing as possible, just shy of Jessica Rabbit levels of exaggeration.

There are tons of essays and blog posts and whatnot calling Disney out for the way it portrays a feminine aesthetic and how the Disney Princess contributes to body image disorders and supposedly premature sexualisation in young girls. This is also a thing that has been around since the 90's so it's not exactly a new concept.