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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-25 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #3430 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3430 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.
[A Game of Thrones, Brienne of Tarth/Tormund Giantsbane]


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02.
[Lupita Nyong'o]


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03.
[Tolkien/Lord of the Rings]


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04.
[Doctor Thorne miniseries, based on the book by Anthony Trollope]


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05.
[Top Row (L-R): Orihara Izaya (Durarara!!), Akashi Seijuurou (Kuroko no Basuke), Levi (Shingeki no Kyojin), Free Cell (Phi Brain), Choromatsu (Osomatsu-san)
Bottom Row (L-R): Satomi Riou (Hakkenden), Kusatsu Kinshirou (Boueibu), Souma Hiroomi (Working!!), Takeda Ittetsu (Haikyuu!!), Natsume Takashi (Natsume Yuujinchou)]


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06.
[Star Trek: Deep Space Nine]


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07.
[The Night Manager]


















Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 01 pages, 14 secrets from Secret Submission Post #490.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - posted twice ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

(Anonymous) 2016-05-25 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
An evil nazi who has a very personal beef with Captain America no less. Of course he is going to tear down the man in the most personal way he can. That is what this part of the storyline is, the tearing down, the demonstration of pettiness so the hero can rise again, stronger than before.

It is also a meta commentary on the Trump White House run and how evil can be insidious, creeping in a little at a time, corrupting even the best men, which is a message I think many Jews who lived through the prelude to the Holocaust would be able to relate to.

Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

(Anonymous) 2016-05-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a balance that has to be struck, though, between an analysis of the origins of the thing, and a unambiguous, fully informed moral condemnation of its evil, and I'm not sure having Cap be a Nazi serves that end.

Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

(Anonymous) 2016-05-25 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Well we could try waiting for more than a single comic panel that set up the cliffhanger to be produced, that would be a start.

Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

(Anonymous) 2016-05-25 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
When you're writing a cliffhanger like this - explicitly for the purpose of publicity and buzz, as well - I'm not sure you really have a lot of ground to stand on as regards the purity of storytelling and approaching the whole narrative in its entirety. Theyre the ones who chose to put this panel into the world. They knew it would get buzz and wanted it to get buzz. That's the whole point of this.
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Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

[personal profile] ketita 2016-05-25 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
If Cap has been brainwashed by Hydra, that's not insidious corruption of a good man. That's brainwashing, like happens every other day in comics. It's hardly a deep commentary on anything.

I think they're just trying to be edgy.

Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

(Anonymous) 2016-05-25 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Not brainwashed, reality rewritten (in-universe) by a super-villain. There is a difference.
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Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

[personal profile] ketita 2016-05-25 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if the villain rewrote reality, that's still not Cap being corrupted, it's reality being corrupted. Either way, it's somebody walking in and going *erase personality/ideals* *input other personality/ideals*. It's not very thought provoking.

Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

(Anonymous) 2016-05-25 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
This is also a good point.

"Super villains made Cap evil with magic" isn't a very insightful analysis of fascism.
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Re: Captain America:-General spoiler warning

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2016-05-25 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It makes perfect sense as to why Marvel would have Red Skull do something like that. And is silly to think there isn't a big story going on that will make it make MORE sense (as much sense as a comic can make).