[ SECRET POST #3431 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3431 ⌋

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[J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion]


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[Wil Wheaton]


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[Mughal-E-Azam]


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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's not the Indian Wars, but he kidnapped people and held them without trial, lied to Congress to open up a second war, and held onto office into a second term with irresponsible tax cuts. He's one of the really bad ones.

[ibbity]

ok? it's really depressing that this is so, but that doesn't actually make him the worst president ever. Also, it's not like he was the first president to do most of those things tbh. Call him an awful president, sure, but don't act like none of the others came close to touching that level of awfulness. I'm not defending dubya here, I'm saying that it diminishes the level of badness that some of our past presidents have achieved if we act like none of them could possibly have been as bad as this one.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? How many other US Presidents went into a dozen foreign jurisdictions, kidnapped hundreds of innocent persons, and held them without trial?

How many blatantly lied to Congress to create a perception of a pretext for a war?

How many ran up debt to the extent that he did for the reasons that he did, and ended their terms with a worldwide depression?

You can cite examples, I hope.

[(Anonymous)]

*nods* I think we just haven't gotten enough distance from those events yet for people to place them into historical perspective.

Also, and more depressingly, the prevailing view has shifted in response to 9/11 to excuse (at least to some extent) things like lying to Congress and unjustly imprisoning people. I really, really hope we as a society can get back to the place where those things are unconscionable and any president who did them is automatically considered to be among the worst of the worst. But we're not there yet.