[ SECRET POST #3432 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3432 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Flaky Pastry]



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02. http://i.imgur.com/kqv1lD2.gifv
[Homestuck, gif]


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03. [SPOILERS for Fire Emblem Fates]




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04. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]




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05. [SPOILERS for Captain America: Civil War]




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06. [WARNING for all common triggers/general discussion of triggering material]




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07. [WARNING for rape]























Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #490.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[philstar22]

Exactly. It wasn't a momentary reaction. He kept going. And then the way he talked to Steve at the end. For me that just crossed the line and while I can understand him being angry about his parents death, he was still in the wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, the way he treated Steve at that point really left a bad taste in my mouth.

It doesn't help that Tony's life was basically intact afterwards, too. He still had his wealth and his good name, all his property and the Avengers or what was left of them. There were no consequences to him for breaking the Accords (which leads me to think he's not one of the people they're actually aimed at). His best friend doesn't blame him, and they get to chill together at the compound. While everyone else is either in prison or on the run and basically they don't have anything except each other. Steve doesn't even have Bucky.

[kallanda_lee]

What really, really did it for me, was at the very end - when Bucky has already lost his arm, he was lying on the floor, and was sort of pathetically just trying to pull Tony off Steve - and Tony just KICKS him in the face in full Iron Man armor.

I'm sorry, but what kind of hero is that? You wouldn't do that to a rabid dog, let alone a human being. It was downright brutal, towards someone who at that point is defenseless.

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly. Tony was getting ready to kick Bucky in the face again while Bucky was lying helpless and injured on the floor, when Steve bodily picked Tony up and threw him away from him. Tony's anger is understandable in that last act, but his actions are not those of a hero.

[(Anonymous)]

They were definitely setting Iron Man up as the bully in that scene, to mirror the "I can do this all day" scene from TFA. I winced but I also sniggered because I knew now that he'd literally kicked the fandom's beloved puppy, he wasn't getting away lightly.

[(Anonymous)]

How is this any worse that Steve, Bucky and Sam throwing around (and presumably seriously injuring and/or killing) innocent civilians earlier in the film though? Heroes don't act the way Steve was acting for half the film, imo but no one is angry at him for his bullshit 'cause he was protecting the fandom darling.

[kallanda_lee]

- if you're talking about Lagos: they were actually trying to stop a biological weapon. Now don't get me wrong, I do think that Tony has a POINT with the accords, it's just the way

- if you're talking about the stairway scene: those are hardly innocent civilians, they're a trained killed stroke force. It was self defense (they had shoot to kill orders)

- if you're talking about the car chase...ehm, I saw someone got throws off a motorbike? I've fallen harder than that off my own stupidity.


I'm not saying it's right, or that there's not a good case for the Accords - however, I'm saying there's a moral difference between collateral damage (especially if there would have been more deaths without intervention) and willfully, brutally trying to kill a man who is already down. that says something about your character.

[fishnchips]

I thought that whole mess was a perfect example of hilariously faulty superhero movie logic: Steve kept saying "ooohhh but don't kill anyone" and five minutes later, he keeps punching people's heads in and guts out full force with his shield. You can't tell me a full on hit on the head or in the stomach with Steve's shield/strength combo doesn't do irreparable organ/spinal/brain damage. And that's not even counting the collapsed tunnel full of civillian cars.

[ketita]

The only way I made sense of that was by assuming that the movie meant us to believe that somehow none of these people were killed because uh superheroes or something.
Because I was also really bothered by the violence in that scene. There should have been a lot of dead/crippled people... but eh, whatever. Since the movie didn't address it, I guess I'll just pretend?

[(Anonymous)]

kek are you bitter everyone dumped your old and busted favorite for the far superior Bucky, anon~?