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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-29 03:15 pm

[ SECRET POST #3434 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-05-29 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Uuuuugghhhhhh the hobbit movies were sooooo bad.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-29 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
To this day I am still somewhat stunned they were ever allowed to be released and distributed. Who looks at that shit and goes "yep, this is theater-worthy"?

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently Peter Jackson doesn't watch his movies until they're in the cinema so that might explain a lot.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
Why would you be surprised? The people to greenlight projects are studio suits who have okay'd much stupider films on the basis that they might bring in money, and these movies were guaranteed to make bank. Each of them made almost a billion dollars.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
True, but unlike a lot of shitty films, this one is part of a franchise that has a reputation to uphold. The laborious perfectionism and dedication to suspension of disbelief and immersion is a big part of what made the LOTR movies click with audiences so well, not unlike the Star Wars movies in the previous generation, and something so hamfisted, stale, and sloppy really kind of taints the filmmaking cred of the head people involved.

And it's not a financially intelligent idea to force a director who could previously be relied on to bring in a lot of money on the basis of the trust and positive associations he has among the public into a situation that causes him to produce shit, thereby ruining the aforementioned profitable commodities of audience trust and positive association.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 06:19 am (UTC)(link)
Nah, the money was there to take and they took it, simple as. If they ever even worried about this kind of things they wouldn't constantly be doing remakes and reboots of beloved properties... and if they happen to ruin their reputation with fans, all they have to do is wait a decade or so for a new generation of movie-goers to come along.

PJ sort of got thrown under the bus in the process but the execs don't care. Enough people will still go see his next movie if he ever gets to do one again. The general public has low standards and short memories.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
"True, but unlike a lot of shitty films, this one is part of a franchise that has a reputation to uphold."

Look, I agree with you that the hobbit trilogy was pretty embarrassingly crap, but what you don't seem to realize is that our opinion is not necessarily the opinion of the majority of movie-goers. Three billion at the box office should tell you this. That reputation you speak of? It was upheld by the profit those movies made. The fact that critics weren't as enthusiastic or that you and I were disgusted by the poor quality doesn't count for shit when it comes to deciding whether or not to make those movies.

Sure, they might have to worry if they plan on making more Tolkien-based movies with Peter Jackson at the helm, but remember, big franchises have changed directors before and they were already prepared to let someone else direct when Jackson originally said no. You also have to remember that they don't have the rights to any other Tolkien properties, and that the Tolkien estate hasn't been very happy with ANY of the film adaptations, so there may not be any future LOTR universe films to worry about.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Well, but... that's not how the decision to release a movie is made. Executives don't make these decisions based on quality, they release it if they believe it will make them money. There was very little question that the Hobbit movies would make them money, regardless of how "theater-worthy" they were. This is how big franchises work. Look at the Star Wars prequels, or the entire Transformers franchise.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-01 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
I still maintain that losing Guillermo Del Toro is the worst thing that could have happened to the Hobbit films. Tragedy. Peter Jackson did the job, but he wasn't who he originally planned. Disaster, imo.