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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-30 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #3435 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3435 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I could've made this secret. I hate the idea that you should be loyal to family no matter what they do purely because you're related.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
+1000000

(Anonymous) 2016-05-30 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
This. Not everyones family is the idealistic, close, loving family you see in movies. Some people grow up in abusive families and I don't think you could judge someone for not being loyal to people like that.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-31 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think you have to be "loyal" to forgive someone, family or otherwise. I don't think you even have to care about them.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-31 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
True... it's been said before, but you could think of forgiveness more as "letting go" of the past and the pain, but not necessarily resuming a relationship with the one who hurt you.

(Anonymous) 2016-05-31 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
da Excellent point. A few years ago I had a hard time because family members were on at me to forgive two of their number who'd bullied me. From their point of view, this seemed to mean making nice with the bullies, pretending it hadn't happened, etc. I looked up the definition in the Concise Oxford and it reads "remit, let off, cease to resent, pardon." Nothing about having further contact at all.

The word is derived from the Old Norse fyrirgefa and if the Old Norse could do that much, I reckoned so could I.

Hope that sounds relevant, OP?

(Anonymous) 2016-05-31 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I think it's perfectly consistent to forgive someone and then cut them out of your life entirely. Forgiveness doesn't mean no consequences and everything goes on the same as before as if nothing happened. Nor does forgiveness overrule one's right to self-defense, which might involve removing yourself from the influence of the person who hurt you so they don't have the opportunity to hurt you again.