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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-05-30 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #3435 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3435 ⌋

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Re: Controversial (fandom) Opinions

[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-05-31 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it's complex. First of all, it's very easy to hurt people unintentionally. Everyone does it. Second, a lot of abusive people genuinely do not believe they are abusive. Their world view is messed up. So, therefore, it's very likely that they don't see themselves as 'hurting' people, just acting the way they believe it is acceptable for them to act. But lastly, love is an emotion. It is not an action. Someone who loves someone might still hurt them because hurt is an action completely separate from the emotion of love. I always use Mother Gothel from Tangled as my example. People say 'she didn't love Rapunzel, she loved her hair' and while the second part of that statement is certainly true, I don't believe the first to be (And while that is open to interpretation, for the sake of my example let's assume it to be true). It's not so much that she didn't love Rapunzel, it's that she loved herself (and thus the hair) more. So, while we assume for this statement that she did indeed love Rapunzel, she would still hurt Rapunzel willingly because she loved herself more. None of that would negate the actual emotion of love.

Re: Controversial (fandom) Opinions

(Anonymous) 2016-05-31 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I understand your second point. It's not something I've considered before, but I can see how someone may not know they're hurting another person.


I haven't seen Tangled, but I get it. It's a matter of how much you love someone. I guess I'm so used to the idea that love means putting someone else above yourself. Like your example, anyone that loves themselves over others is portrayed as a villain and it's always shown as an evil thing.
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Re: Controversial (fandom) Opinions

[personal profile] nonnymouscawitz 2016-05-31 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that your definition is wrong, per se. It's more that you're looking at the actions of love. Putting someone else first is a hallmark of healthy love, but A) It is still an action, and B) Not all love is healthy. Loving yourself over others is shown as a bad thing because it usually is, but it doesn't mean you don't love others. It just means that you don't love them in a healthy, constructive way.