[ SECRET POST #3441 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3441 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on the kind of negativity, for me. "Wow, this person has this really irritating flaw, but otherwise is a good person and a good friend" doesn't qualify as a friendship breaker. It's when the negative qualities outweigh the positive ones that I break off the friendship.

Example: I have a female friend who thinks women shouldn't have the right to vote. She's a great friend. Just this ONE THING that drives me UP THE WALL. Maybe one day I'll convince her that her reasoning isn't logically sound ...

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, I dunno about you, but somone thinking an entire gender shouldn't have the right to vote is a /pretty/ big deal.
No offense, but I don't see how she can be a great friend when she has such an outdated and dehumanizing veiw on women.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that society has lost the ability to disagree with other people without going crazy over it.

This is a major problem, in my opinion.

I have another friend (who I'm significantly less close to, but I still talk to) who literally thought we should nuke the Middle East into submission. You know what? I talked him out of it. Over time, he's slowly become more rational. If I just called him a hateful bigot instead of saying, "Oh really? Why is that?" he would STILL believe that's a good idea. I still have hopes that I can get him in therapy for his emotional problems, but he's considerably more stable for being friends with me. I also talked him out of sympathy for misogynists, WHILE BEING A WOMAN, simply by reasoning it out logically with him and pointing out the flaws in his logic.

There's a black man in some eastern US state that single-handedly dismantled the local KKK ... by befriending them and showing them that their racism was wrong. He said that a lot of them weren't evil people, but they had deep-set wrong ideas about black people, often as a result as being raised by racists.

Are their racists and misogynists who can't be reasoned with? Sure. But I've met a lot who can be. I think it's worth making connections with those people, and challenging their views. And the best way to do that ... is actually to care about them, and recognize their good qualities as well as their bad.

[(Anonymous)]

i am genuinely curious... whats the reasoning she gives

[(Anonymous)]

Essentially, that since male and female brains are different (true) and women are more emotionally biased (no), they aren't as good at making rational decisions, which voting/politics/leading require. She's perfectly willing to admit that individual women are as rational as men, but not as a gender. In her words, removing the right of women to vote wouldn't fix America, but it might help.

I could go into my counter-arguments, but I'm sure you can imagine what they are. (Okay, here's one: failing to treat someone as an individual but instead their sex IS BAD and goes against individual liberty in all forms.) She's a rational person otherwise, but weirdly just won't see it on this one issue (I have in fact convinced her of other things, just not this). We argue so much over it that we had to agree to disagree.