[ SECRET POST #3442 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3442 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

So, like, are we making this sweeping characterization of a whole generation from just OP's story, or are we drawing from a slightly wider base of anecdata here?

Also I'm really uncomfortable with describing it as "a backlash against sexual freedom." Having a position other than YKINMK is not equivalent to being anti-kink as a whole and sex-negative and puritan or whatever.

[herpymcderp]

Nope. Drawing from a series of meta-analyses in psych/history regarding cyclic intergenerational reversals of political views. Can't really remember who did it now because I read it like ten years ago, but eh, I'm sure the work is still out there.

In summary: a whole bunch of work suggests that kids like to rebel against their elders, so there's a bit of a see-saw effect of attitudes regarding race/sex/conservatism on a micro scale, despite the macro trend being one of moving toward an overall less conservative political climate over the past... 50 years of history in study terms? I think it was from the 1950's to 2000's.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, first, I'm in general kind of skeptical about those studies - I think they're mostly just-so stories that happen to explain particular 50 year periods with very little predictive validity.

But setting that aside, I think trying to draw definite conclusions from it in advance of how that tendency is going to actualize itself is a fool's errand. And in this case, I think you're probably influenced too much by your own feelings about a present controversy to actually make a useful analysis of it. I don't think there's enough evidence to conclude that the younger generation is sex-negative. That's ridiculous.

[herpymcderp]

enough evidence to conclude that the younger generation is sex-negative

As a whole, of course not. But in this particular subculture? ...Yeah, I think there really is enough evidence to conclude that there has at least been a shift towards a less sex-positive collective viewpoint.

[(Anonymous)]

That's fair, and I don't disagree.

"Less sex-positive" is not the same as "sex-negative". If what you meant was "less sex-positive" you shouldn't have said "sex-negative".

[(Anonymous)]

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also if you'd specified the bit about this particular subculture

[herpymcderp]

I didn't say sex-negative. I said "sexual freedom" (which isn't necessarily the same thing; I think sex-positivity is still fairly prevalent in fandom, but it does seem to be limited to certain "allowed" kinks... hence freedom).

But that's really neither here nor there. I don't have a dog in this fight since I still personally go around enjoying whatever I want and writing whatever I want, and I haven't personally been dogpiled by screaming children over it yet.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, sure.

[(Anonymous)]

No. We're making it from observing the change in fandom behaviour, which over the last couple of years has gone from a freeforall of kink battles and memes, to a trend towards being hassled for doing much of anything sex positive. Which is ironic coming from a bunch of people who don't want to be judged for what they get up to, but are more than willing to jump down the necks of others.