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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2016-06-06 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #3442 ]


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(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, they're not willing to go as far as saying PIV sex is rape. Their audience is too large to quite get away with that. I was speaking more generally about third-wave feminism. But they do promote the shit out of things like ShirtGate. Because a man who sent a rocket to an asteroid happened to wear a shirt with sexy women on it ... that a woman made for him ... we have to lose our minds because SEXISM somehow.



(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so now you're pivoting entirely from the original claim (about how recent feminism is sex-negative and claims that all PIV sex is rape) to some arguments on the internet that you're angry about?

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
No. I'm pivoting from a specific claim of sex-negativity to a more general one, speaking in more general terms. I bet you find PIV sex = rape in universities, but you get more generalized sex negativity in media, unless you're looking at something like Jezebel.

Sexy women on a man's t-shirt is oppressive and bad, because ... sexy women are bad? Or just when a man is involved? Who knows. I see a lot of stuff from feminists that say women are oppressed because sexy women exist in media. I would call that sex-negative.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I find modern feminism to be completely contradictory. I don't think even THEY know they're aiming for at this point, it's all just screaming and yelling. Slut walks = empowerment. Sexy woman poses sexily anywhere else = oppression. Also, slut walks where you walk naked or nearly so = empowerment, but a man looking at a naked or nearly so woman = oppression.

And let's not forget how oppressive air conditioning settings are.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-07 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
like if you can't tell the difference between looking and ogling I don't even know what to tell you.

The whole point is for female sexuality to be in female hands and to exist for more than the male gaze.

(Anonymous) 2016-06-07 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
Backpedal faster.

And we have the classic - a woman said/did/agreed with it, can't be sexist!
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2016-06-07 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So when you say Buzzfeed is echoing "similar shit" to "PIV sex = rape", you mean they are...talking about ShirtGate?

Seriously?

How...that is such a huge leap, anon